The Olympians: HoopsHD interviews Lindsay Schnell about 2004 Olympic gold medalist C. Vivian Stringer

The NBA Finals date back to 1947 (when they were known as the Basketball Association of America Finals) and the very 1st NCAA tourney was held in 1939. Olympic basketball competition is even older: it debuted as a demonstration event in 1904 and the men’s version became a medal sport in 1936, with the women finally getting their chance to go for the gold in 1976. The United States has dominated Olympic basketball competition from the start: the men have won 16 gold medals in the 19 tournaments they have participated in during the past 87 years, while the women have won 9 gold medals in the 11 tournaments in which they have competed during the past 47 years. While we have to wait 1 more year until the 2024 Olympics in Paris, HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel will fill the void by interviewing as many prior Olympic players/coaches as possible. We continue our coverage by chatting with Lindsay Schnell about C. Vivian Stringer’s career, which included winning a gold medal and being inducted into the Women’s Basketball/Naismith Basketball Halls of Fame. Today is the 1-year anniversary of Rutgers announcing that it was renaming the court inside its basketball stadium in honor of Coach Stringer on October 19, 2022, so we take this time to remember her remarkable career.

In the 1960s Stringer sued her Pennsylvania high school for not allowing her to become a cheerleader because of her race (and won), and in 2019 she became the 1st African-American college basketball coach to win 1000 games: what role has race played in her life both on and off the court?
Race has been the foundation of her career in so many ways. She is a pioneer both on/off the floor and has been adamant about creating opportunities for coaches of color (especially women). She did an event a couple of years ago with some other coaches and said that 1 thing she tried to impress upon other head coaches was to not just hire a young Black woman to recruit. She wanted them in the locker room: creating game plans, developing players, etc. She was passionate about advocating for people who looked like her. Dawn Staley is the face of women’s college basketball and says all the time that she would not be here without Coach Stringer. When Stringer was at Cheyney State she coached alongside a pioneer of the men’s game in John Chaney: they were not afraid to confront the uncomfortable truth and were a powerhouse coaching couple, which I assume was a huge influence on her life. Coach Chaney is revered across all sports, which is an impressive footnote on her own resume.

She was a 3-time national COY: what made her such a great coach?
When you have sustained success at several schools it means that you are a good teacher of the game. Her recruiting showed the rare mix of being able to find kids who were overlooked while also building relationships with the players she did recruit. She sent a ton of players to the WNBA and had high standards for her players both on/off the floor.

She was known for her match-up zone defense (finishing top-5 in the nation in PPG allowed on several occasions) and very difficult non-conference schedules (including facing the #1 team in the nation in back-to-back games and facing multiple opponents each year who advanced to the Final 4): was it as simple as defense + competition = success or is there a lot more to it?
Good defensive teams find ways to win because they find ways to hang around. She was fearless in her life and dealt with some really tough personal challenges: she tackled them head on and then talked about them. After dealing with the death of her husband and a child with special needs, scheduling a top-5 opponent was probably a walk in the park. Similar to Pat Summitt, she realized that was good for the game, and that fearlessness rubbed off on her players as well.

In 2004 she won an Olympic gold medal as an assistant coach for Team USA: what did it mean to her to represent her country, and what did it mean to her to win a gold medal?
We would all agree that we need more Black women in prominent roles across our country. Seeing her in that position was good for both young coaches/players. Women’s basketball is dominated in the US by Black women so you also need people who look like that on the sideline. It is just 1 of many things on her resume that is so impressive.

In April of 2007 as head coach at Rutgers she set a Final 4 record by holding LSU to 35 PTS in the national semifinal game (despite not having a single senior on her roster), then 2 days later lost to Tennessee in the title game, then the next day syndicated radio host Don Imus referred to the Scarlet Knights as “nappy-headed hos”, followed 8 days later by New Jersey governor Jon Corzine almost getting killed in a car accident while heading to the governor’s mansion to host a meeting where Imus apologized to the team in person: what impact did that 12-day stretch have on her life (if any)? The impact on the women’s basketball community was to show how deeply embedded racism is in our country and how it is a never-ending conversation for Black women. She could have just reveled in her team’s success but confronted it head-on. Her willingness to speak out and recognize her platform to use it for good was important. I think about how many times she has been “the voice” in women’s basketball and she handled it (as always) with grace.

In the 2014 Women’s NIT title game Tyler Scaife scored 18 PTS including a coast-to-coast basket with 2 seconds left to give Rutgers a 2-PT win over UTEP: what did it mean to her to win a title? Anytime you can end your season with a win it is a positive and there is carry-over into the next season. Had they avoided the juggernaut that was UConn in 2015 I think they would have gone very far in that NCAA tourney. Some teams who get into the NIT just shrug their shoulders and get upset but she wanted her team to strive for excellence in every single game.

She made 28 NCAA tourneys and was the 1st coach (men’s or women’s) to lead 3 different schools (Cheyney State/Iowa/Rutgers) to the Final 4: how was she able to have so much success at so many different schools? It goes back to her being a great teacher of the game. She was a good X’s and O’s coach, which matters a lot. That gap of being a tactician is bigger in the women’s game than in the men’s game. She believed that her team could win and understood the advantages/disadvantages at each school while finding the positives. It is easy to forget the success she had because it was a while ago but the bottom line is that she is a powerhouse.

She remains the 5th winningest coach in women’s basketball history with 1055 wins and is the only women’s coach to spend 50 years on the sideline: why did she decide to stick around for so long (nobody else even has 45 years under their belt)? 1 important thing to note is that Summitt was taken from us at a young age: if she was still alive then I think she would still be stalking the Vols’ sideline. Basketball kept Vivian going: it gave her a reason to get out of bed. Her daughter received great care at the Iowa Children’s Hospital, which was a big factor in her moving to Iowa. In the 2021 NCAA tourney Rutgers almost beat BYU after being down by a large amount: I laughed because she was making yet another run and making other teams look foolish!

She was inducted into the Women’s Basketball Hall of Fame in 2001 and the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame in 2009: what did it mean to her to receive such outstanding honors? If you read her bio in the Naismith Hall of Fame, the 1st point they make is that she was a coal miner’s daughter. She grew up in a small town with parents who preached that you could achieve anything via hard work, which encapsulates all of her success. She belongs in both Halls and she has proved that you can work your way up from a humble background. When she was at an HBCU she took them to the Final 4, then made it back there at Iowa more than a decade later. Every time I heard her at a press conference/event I personally felt inspired: I can only imagine what her pregame speeches were like!

When people look back on her career, how do you think that she should be remembered the most? As someone who fought tirelessly for Black women to be in positions of power in a game that they dominated from a player perspective. She talked openly about players needing to see other Black women on the sideline balancing a career/family. Her family was an important part of every school she was at. I think about Staley building a powerhouse at South Carolina with 2 NCAA titles (and counting): she always says that she is here because of what Coach Stringer wanted for their sport. As we continue to go forward and see men/women of color get hired as coaches, it all goes back to Coach Stringer.

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Ohio Valley Media Day Recap and Response

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OVC MEDIA DAY PRESEASON POLL:

  1. Morehead State
  2. SIUE
  3. Tennessee State
  4. UT Martin
  5. SEMO
  6. Tennessee Tech
  7. Little Rock
  8. Western Illinois
  9. Southern Indiana
  10. Lindenwood
  11. Eastern Illinois

MEDIA DAY PRESEASON ALL OVC:

-Keenon Cole – Lindenwood
-KK Curry – UT Martin
-Marcus Fitzgerald Jr. – Tennessee State
-Mark Freeman – Morehead State
-DeAntoni Gordon – Little Rock
-Jayvis Harvey – Tennessee Tech
-Kinyon Hodges – Tennessee State
-Damarco Minor – SIUE
-Ray’Sean Taylor – SIUE
-Drew Thelwell – Morehead State
-Shamar Wright – SIUE

COMMENTS FROM DAVID:

-Morehead State was the first place finisher last year by three full games but missed out on the NCAA Tournament after falling in the OVC semifinals to SEMO. They did go on to the NIT and managed a big upset road win at Clemson, so with three starters back the expectations are once again high and they are the near-unanimous preseason favorite. Morehead State has had three straight 20+ win seasons and appears to be in position to make it four straight this year. Mark Freeman/Drew Thelwell were both double-digit scorers a year ago and both can score from the outside. They also have some key transfers coming in, particularly Riley Minix who was a standout forward at NAIA school Southeastern, so this team has the pieces to once again run away from the pack.

-On January 18th of last season SIUE was 14-5, had won a very impressive six out of seven, and appeared to be the only decent looking team in the OVC that would have been able to earn an NCAA Tournament seed better than #16. From that point on the bottom fell out and they ended up finishing just .500 in the league. I still cannot get past how good they looked early on, and with three starters back including Ray’Sean Taylor, who averaged over 17ppg last year, I think this team can challenge Morehead State. This is not a program that has experienced a whole lot of success, but Coach Brian Barone has them going in the right direction.

-Tennessee State heated up down the stretch last year and ended up finishing in a tie for 3rd, and is getting quite a bit of love this preseason despite having just one starter back from a year ago. They are tasked with replacing Jr. Clay, who was one of the best players in the league last year. They do have some good looking transfers coming in with a fair amount of D1 experience, so while their roster was overhauled I think we will see them near the top of the standings.

-UT Martin looked pretty solid in the first half of conference play, but then went into a bit of a tailspin where they lost five of their last eight games. Still, it was a huge turnaround with 19 total wins after three consecutive years of winning fewer than ten, and I think their program has taken a huge step forward. Just two starters are back so they are relying on some incoming transfers to keep them in the top half of the league this year.

-SEMO finished the regular season just 10-8 and had to play in the opening round of the OVC Tournament, but they managed to win four games in four days, including knocking off Morehead State in the semifinals for the second time last season, and ended up capturing the automatic bid to the NCAA Tournament. They did lose their top two players who transferred out and like a lot of teams in this conference they are looking to rebuild their roster.

-Tennessee Tech had a decent year last year where they went 11-7 during the conference regular season, and it was likely the best year Coach John Pelphrey has had since he took over, but this team still has a long way to go. Jayvis Harvey returns at guard so the Golden Eagles to appear to have a solid backcourt, but the frontcourt and just overall depth could be an issue.

-Last year Little Rock was a very unimpressive 6-12 in league play and they had just eight overall D1 wins. What is unbelievable about their season a year ago is that 8 of their 12 OVC losses were by 6 pts (two possessions) or less. I have never seen a team almost win so many games. DeAntoni Gordon is the only returning starter so it could be another frustrating year for the Trojans.

-Western Illinois is new to the league, and while they don’t have the richest tradition when it comes to basketball, I don’t see them finishing quite this low. Chad Boudreau takes over as head coach after being an assistant last year and is tasked with replacing their top player along with two other starters, but Quinlan Bennett/Jesiah West are both solid players, and the typical level of competition in the OVC is a little more manageable than what is at the top of the Summit League. There is no Oral Roberts, South Dakota State, or North Dakota State. There is no group of teams that anyone looks at and thinks, “We will be lucky if we win one of those six games.” I do not think they will finish as high as SIUE/Morehead State, but I do think they will finish better than 8th.

-Southern Indiana had a fairly successful debut season as they begin the transition to D1, but the second/third years are usually the hardest. It is a situation where a team’s key players from the previous year either graduate/transfer, and then they are hard to replace with D1-caliber players because guys just do not want to play for a team that is not postseason-eligible. Lindenwood will be dealing with the same issues.

-Eastern Illinois is picked to finish last. They were 5-13 in the league last year and were actually playing their best ball during the last few weeks of the season. Granted, their best ball still was not all that good…but they were getting better. Three starters are back and they have added some standout JUCO players. I would not just assume that this team will be the league’s doormat.

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Happy College Basketball Season (sort of) 2023-2024!!!!

It is finally here!! The first open exhibition game that involves an NCAA Division One team is tonight!! We’ve got two college basketball teams that will be playing against one another!! Louisville will be taking on Simmons College. Now, as best we can tell, Simmons College won just two total games two years ago, but underwent a drastic improvement and was 14-13 last year! They are members of the NCCAA (National Christian College Athletic Association, and are likely incredibly overmatched by a Louisville team that isn’t very good by D1 standards, but is probably still exponentially better than Simmons, it probably won’t be that exciting or that interesting, and as far as importance it is an exhibition game that means absolutely nothing.

But…IT IS COLLEGE BASKETBALL!!! With the exception of Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, we have some sort of a college basketball game every day from today until the day after Selection Sunday!!!

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and…HAPPY COLLEGE BASKETBALL SEASON EVERYBODY!!!!! (sort of)

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The Hoops HD Report: Big East Conference Preview

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CLICK HERE for our ACC Preview Podcast. It kind of got buried with all of the other conference previews.

A full Hoops HD Panel takes a look at the Big East this year, which is extremely top-heavy with Marquette, Creighton, and defending national champs UConn all looking like top ten teams. Kyle Neptune enters his second year at Villanova, and while his debut was a bit of a disappointment, he’s got a lot of talent this year and has a very good chance of getting them back to The Dance. Rick Pitino takes over at Saint John’s and has some high caliber players from UTR schools transferring in, and Kim English has a decent amount of talent for his first year at Providence. We discuss all that, and more!!

***NOTE FROM DAVID GRIGGS: During this show, I made a comment about former Iona coach Tim Cluess. It was meant to be a joke and playful in nature, but at the time I said it I had forgotten about his current health issues. Had I remembered, I probably wouldn’t have made the comment. But, we didn’t want to rerecord the whole thing. He’s someone that we all appreciate and that we used to have a sort of running joke with on the Under the Radar Podcasts. I certainly do wish him the best.

And for all you radio lovers, below is an audio only version of the show…

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Conference USA Media Day Recap and Response

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CONFERENCE USA MEDIA DAY PRESEASON POLL:

  1. Liberty
  2. Middle Tennessee (tied in overall points but received fewer 1st place votes)
  3. Western Kentucky
  4. LA Tech
  5. UTEP
  6. Sam Houston
  7. FIU
  8. New Mexico State
  9. Jacksonville State

MEDIA DAY PRESEASON ALL CONFERENCE USA:

-Arturo Dean – SO, G – FIU
-Isaiah Crawford – SR, F – LA Tech (Preseason Player of the Year)
-Kyle Rode – SR, F – Liberty
-Elias King – SR, G – Middle Tennessee
-Camryn Weston – SR, G – Middle Tennessee
-Cameron Huefner – JR, F – Sam Houston
-Tae Hardy – SR, G – UTEP
-Calvin Solomon – SR, F – UTEP
-Dontaie Allen, SR, G/F – Western Kentucky
-Brandon Newman – SR, G – Western Kentucky

COMMENTS FROM DAVID:

Conference USA has been completely overhauled with several of the previously top programs bolting to join the American Conference, and four of the current nine members being brand-new to the league.

-Liberty is the preseason favorite and it is hard for me to see how it could possibly be anyone else. This was a team that finished in the top-50 in the KenPom rankings last year, and while the Atlantic Sun is not packed with bluebloods, it does have some good teams. With four starters back from a top-50ish caliber team, they have the kind of team that can not only win the league but blow through it and perhaps land near the bubble. They are tasked with replacing their best player, but virtually all of their other contributing players are back. They return enough to where guys can step into new roles and to where this could be a really strong team.

-Middle Tennessee is getting a lot of preseason love from the media. They were a modest 17-14 against D1 teams last year, and 11-9 in conference play. Three starters are back so they do have some experience. Their season ended with what was legitimately a great game and tremendous effort against Florida Atlantic in the semis of the conference tournament, and perhaps that is what has people so excited. I like them and think they will be much closer to the top of the league than the bottom, but I do not see them keeping pace with Liberty.

-Western Kentucky is starting completely over. They have a new head coach in Steve Lutz (who had a great two year run at TAMUCC and took them to two NCAA Tournaments) and will have five new starters this year since all the ones from last year are gone. I do like Lutz and think he will have some great years with the Toppers, but when I look at the pieces WKU has this year I just do not see it happening.

-After back-to-back 24-win seasons LA Tech digressed last season with just 15 overall wins and was a disappointing 7-13 in CUSA. They went 1-7 in their last eight regular season games after their leading scorer was dismissed from the team. Talvin Hester is in his second year as head coach and he has his work cut out for him. Just two starters are back but they did go into the transfer portal and have multiple players from P5 level programs coming in so I think they will be able to get things turned back around. I know this is a bit of a dark horse pick but I kind of like this team this year.

-UTEP is another team that was really bad in the last few weeks of the season, and even though three starters are back including Tae Hardy/Calvin Solomon (who received preseason all-conference honors), the expectations are not high.

-Sam Houston not only has a new conference but a new head coach in Chris Mudge who takes over after being an assistant with the program. The Bearkats had a great year last year with 26 wins including 1 in the postseason NIT, but just one starter returns from that team so there are a lot of unknowns about them. They do appear to have some decent transfers and freshmen coming in and it would not shock me to see them exceed expectations, but I cannot see them contending for a league title just yet.

-FIU had a stretch early in the first half of conference play where they won five out of six and beat some pretty notable teams. After that they just absolutely fell apart down the stretch. Three starters are back including Arturo Dean, who was the freshman of the year in the conference last season, so they do have some pieces and some potential.

-I am not going to get into the specifics because you probably know them already, but New Mexico State had to twice deal with extreme off-court issues last year which resulted in several games being cancelled, and they now have a new coach in Jason Hooten and almost an entirely new roster. They are heavy on transfers, including multiple grad transfers, and the likelihood of seeing them be highly successful is highly unlikely. At this point it is probably more important to reestablish their culture, rebuild a positive identity, and start to get their program back on track. This was a team that 2 years ago won 27 games including a game in the Round of 64, so the opportunities to build a successful program certainly exist.

-Jacksonville State is joining their third conference in the past four years! It is once again a transfer-heavy team, and while they appear to be bringing in a couple of quality JUCO guys I am inclined to think it will be a long year for the Gamecocks.

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Atlantic Sun Media Day Recap and Response

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A-SUN MEDIA DAY PRESEASON COACHES POLL:

  1. Eastern Kentucky
  2. FGCU
  3. Stetson
  4. Kennesaw State
  5. Lipscomb
  6. Bellarmine
  7. North Alabama
  8. Austin Peay
  9. Jacksonville
  10. Queens
  11. North Florida
  12. Central Arkansas

A-SUN MEDIA DAY PRESEASON MEDIA POLL:

  1. Eastern Kentucky
  2. Kennesaw State
  3. Lipscomb
  4. FGCU
  5. Bellarmine
  6. Stetson
  7. North Alabama
  8. North Florida
  9. Queens
  10. Jacksonville
  11. Austin Peay
  12. Central Arkansas

MEDIA DAY PRESEASON ALL A-SUN

-Devontae Blanton – Eastern Kentucky
-Terrell Burden – Kennesaw State
-Jacob Ognacevic – Lipscomb
-DeMarcus Sharp – Austin Peay
-Garrett Tipton – Bellarmine
-Camren Hunter – Central Arkansas
-Isaiah Cozart – Eastern Kentucky
-Isaiah Thompson – FGCU
-Jacari Lane – North Alabama
-AJ McKee – Queens
-Jalen Blackmon – Stetson

COMMENTS FROM DAVID:

I need to begin by saying there were some huge discrepancies amongst the voters in both the coaches and media polls. In both cases, the team that ultimately ended up 11th in the poll also received first place votes. So I guess that means this league is wide open!

-The consensus favorite to win the league is Eastern Kentucky, and that is my pick as well. The Colonels have four starters back from a team that won 20 games and advanced to the finals of the CBI last year. AW Hamilton enters his fifth year as head coach and this looks like it could be his breakout year. “Tae Tae” Blanton is one of the best players in the conference and he has a really strong supporting cast. They like to play up-tempo, are really athletic, are able to score, and are a ton of fun to watch.

-Kennesaw State had an absolutely incredible year last year. For a program with almost no basketball history or culture they were packing their arena in the latter part of the season, finished in a tie for first place, won the A-Sun Tourney, and then had Xavier on the ropes in the Round of 64 before losing in the final minute of play. Antoine Pettway takes over as head coach after Amir Abdur-Rahim left to take the job at South Florida, and while the did lose a substantial amount of talent, Terrell Burden/Demond Robinson are two double-digit scorers who stuck around. The team does appear to lack depth and that could be an issue. I do not expect them to win 26 games again this season, but I also do not expect them to return to the bottom of the standings either. The culture and expectations have changed in Kennesaw.

-FGCU had a rather unspectacular season last year so it is a little surprising to see them so high up in the preseason media polls. They were just 16-15 overall and were absolutely atrocious in the second half of conference play, although to be fair injuries played a big role in that. They do have a really good coach in Pat Chambers (at least I believe him to be good), and I do think this program will be back at the top of the league some day…but I do not see it happening this year. Three starters are back including Isaiah Thompson, who is one of the better players in the conference, so if they can stay healthy they should be noticeably better this season.

-I really like this Lipscomb team. They were a modest 11-7 in league play a year ago, but (for the most part) they were really strong in the second half of conference play and with four starters back I think they can make quite a bit of noise and even challenge Eastern Kentucky for 1st place. Depth will be an issue. They retained their key starters but lost several guys who contributed off the bench. Despite that, I think they have enough depth that guys can come off the bench and give them quality minutes.

-If you follow our Under the Radar podcasts you know that we often feel that Stetson is on the verge of a breakthrough season. It has not happened yet but we continue to think it will, and once again I am saying that I think this will be a good year for the Hatters. They were just 17-14 a season ago, but were a very respectable 12-6 in conference play and were looking pretty good down the stretch. They return three starters including Jalen Blackmon, who is one of the better players and shooters in the conference. Stephan Swenson is another guy that can put it in the basket. I like this team this year!

-Bellarmine is entering their final season as a transitional program and is positioned to make some noise in the league. They were rather unspectacular as a whole last year but were looking better toward the end of the year, and with four starters back that improvement should continue. This team loves to move the ball and is a lot of fun to watch. They will be a solid A-Sun program once they complete the transition, and I think will be able to compete with the top of the league.

-North Alabama is now full blown D1! As a whole, they were not that good last year, but they finished the regular season by winning six of their last eight, and with four starters back (and seven of their top eight rotation guys back) they can hopefully take some of that momentum into this season. I do not think North Alabama will contend for the top of the league, but I do kind of like them as a dark horse and think they will exceed expectations this year.

-The days of North Florida being a frontrunner in this conference now seem like it was a very long time ago. Coach Matt Driscoll has had some great seasons but the last three have ranged from mediocre down to terrible. Just one starter returns from last year’s team and they are having to rebuild with guys who do not appear to have a lot of experience.

-Austin Peay was the last place team a year ago and they are starting completely over with a revamped roster. Corey Gipson takes over as head coach after the program battled some off-court issues last year, and he does bring with him two standout players from Northwestern State (DeMarcus Sharp/Ja’Monta Black) so we could see some improvement from the Govs this year.

-The Dolphins of Jacksonville are another team that has to rebuild after a rough season last year. They have just one starter back and it is likely that they will be closer to the bottom than they are to the top.

-As a first-year transitional program Queens had an exceptionally good year last year going 15-15 overall against D1 competition. The second/third years of transitioning are usually the toughest so we could see a decline this year. Once they finish the transition I think they will be regular contenders in this conference…but they may be in for an uphill climb for the next two years.

-Central Arkansas is the consensus last place team. They won just 9 total games last year and were especially bad in the last few weeks of the season, but three starters are back including Camren Hunter, who is one of the better players in the conference. The problem is his supporting cast is somewhat lacking. We may see some improvement given their experience but it is still going to be a long year.

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