Happy Anniversary! HoopsHD interviews a trio of Clyde Lee’s former teammates about the 2-time SEC POY

Darius Garland may be his on his way to becoming the best NBA player to ever come out of Vanderbilt…but he has not yet caught Clyde Lee. Clyde was a star at Vanderbilt back in the 1960s, setting several school records including most points in a season and most rebounds in a game. He helped win the school’s 1st SEC title in 1965 and was named SEC POY for 2 years in a row in 1965/1966. He was drafted 3rd overall by San Francisco in 1966, made the NBA Finals in 1967, and played in the 1968 All-Star Game. HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel got to chat with a trio of Clyde’s college teammates (John Ed Miller/Jerry Southwood/Bob “Snake” Grace) about their 1965 NCAA tourney run and Clyde’s great rebounding. Today marks the 56th anniversary of Clyde’s NBA debut on October 21, 1966, so we take this time to reflect on his remarkable achievements.

 

 

Clyde was born/raised in Nashville: what made him choose Vanderbilt? The 1st time I saw him was when when our coaches sent us to watch him play: I was a college freshman and he was a high school senior. He was the tallest guy on the court but was not very aggressive. I looked at my teammate (Snake) and commented that Clyde needed to step it up a bit. He got a lot more aggressive the following year because he had to go up against Snake every day in practice! Clyde is 1 of the nicest people you will ever meet in your life. He was a super teammate and very shy in high school but eventually got over that.

As a sophomore he averaged 18.8 PPG/15.6 RPG: how was he able to come in and dominate right from the start? He had a pretty good supporting cast and was a great team player. Everyone on the team pulled together and wanted him to succeed so we fed him the ball a lot and he was good at sharing it with us. He was 6’9”, which was pretty tall back then, and had some nice moves and could score over people. He was “basketball-smart” and knew how to play team basketball: we were taught how to box out, pick and roll, etc. He was a quick learner who could run the court and catch the ball. We were a great team to watch.

In the 1965 NCAA tourney he had 28 PTS/20 REB in a 2-PT loss to top-ranked Michigan: how close did he come to pulling off the upset? We led the whole game and were right there at the end but there were several issues. By early in the 2nd half Clyde/Snake had both picked up their 4th fouls, which limited their defensive prowess/aggressiveness. Our guard who was defending Cazzie Russell fouled out and there was an erroneous walking call which gave the ball back to Michigan. We should have had the rebound off of a missed FT but the ball took a weird bounce and the Wolverines got it so we had to foul them twice. It was a tough 1 but we did not play our best game…and the refs did not help us with their block/charge calls. The Wolverines were a much more physical team and outweighed us at every position: they looked like NFL linebackers!

He was named All-American/SEC POY in both 1965/1966: what did it mean to him to receive such outstanding honors? It was no surprise: he earned those awards but was a shy team player who did not brag about how great he was. He was the best player who did the most for his team so he deserved those awards.

In the spring of 1966 he was drafted 3rd overall by San Francisco (1 spot behind Dave Bing): did he see that as a validation of his college career, or the realization of a lifelong dream of reaching the NBA, or other? He was very proud to get drafted but he was a regular guy so I do not know that it was a lifelong dream of his. The draft was very short back then and I never recall him mentioning a desire to play pro basketball. Back then he only made about $25,000 as a rookie: today it would be closer to $4 million!

He made the 1967 NBA Finals as a rookie and faced a Philadelphia team that set a then-record for most regular season wins in NBA history with 68: where does that 76ers team with 4 future Hall of Famers in its starting lineup (Wilt Chamberlain/Billy Cunningham/Hal Greer/Chet Walker) rank among the greatest that you have ever seen? I went to see him play in Baltimore but found out that he was back home due to an injury. I remember that Philly team and they were very good. Clyde told me once that he guarded Wilt by pushing him in the back the whole game and never got called for a foul. He said that Wilt was the tallest person he had ever seen.

In the 1968 All-Star Game he had a game-high 11 REB in 18 minutes off the bench for the West in a 20-PT loss to the East: how was he able to play his best against the best? That was just Clyde: he would always go out and give his best. 1 of the few times I ever saw him get mad was during a game against Tulane in New Orleans. They had a 7-footer who hit Clyde in the face during a jump ball…and the next time down the court he just took it to the rim and dunked it right over the big man! He was prepared for everything and just did what he was taught. It is a continuation of what he did in high school: he worked at it and made himself better because he was going to be the best player that he could be.

During his 10-year NBA career he averaged 10.3 RPG, which remains top-50 in NBA history: what was his secret for being a great rebounder? I think it was a combination of several factors. San Francisco already had guys like Nate Thurmond/Rick Barry/Al Attles/Jeff Mullins: Clyde’s job was to defend the best big man on the other team and rebound while the other guys scored. He was great at boxing out/rebounding but that was his big job on that team. He stuck to the basics and was darn good for a decade. He was a really good rebounder at every level.

After retiring from pro basketball he returned to campus to teach yoga classes and work as a radio color commentator for basketball games: how much did he mean to the school, and how much did the school mean to him? We had dinner last night with a woman who was 1 of his yoga students and still remembers him! The school means a lot to him and vice-versa: they would love to have him show up to every basketball game but he now lives out in Las Vegas. He did not want to create a lot of attention but he knew that at 6’9” everyone would look at him whenever he walked into a room. He is still very supportive of Vanderbilt and always will be. He also worked with the golf team including a young man named Brandt Snedeker: everyone loved him. I took some yoga classes from him and still do those exercises today.

In 1995 he was inducted into the Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame and in 2008 he was named to the Vanderbilt Athletics Hall of Fame as part of its inaugural class: when people look back on his career, how do you want him to be remembered the most? As 1 of the nicest people you will ever meet: great character, great basketball player, and a terrific person/friend. He does not want the spotlight for himself: he always said that the team belonged in the spotlight. He was humble back then and remains so today.

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Horizon League Media Day Recap and Response:

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MEDIA DAY PRESEASON POLL:

  1. Purdue Fort Wayne
  2. Northern Kentucky (tied 1st)
  3. Wright State
  4. Oakland
  5. Youngstown State
  6. Detroit Mercy
  7. Cleveland State
  8. Robert Morris
  9. Milwaukee
  10. Green Bay
  11. IUPUI

 

MEDIA DAY PRESEASON ALL-HORIZON LEAGUE 1ST TEAM:

-Antoine Davis – Detroit Mercy (Preseason Player of the Year)
-Marques Warrick – Northern Kentucky
-Jalen Moore – Oakland
-Jarred Godfrey – Purdue Fort Wayne
-Dwayne Cohill – Youngstown State

MEDIA DAY PRESEASON ALL-HORIZON LEAGUE 2ND TEAM:

-Trevon Faulkner – Northern Kentucky
-Sam Vinson – Northern Kentucky
-Kahliel Spear – Robert Morris
-Trey Calvin – Wright State
-Amari Davis – Wright State

 

COMMENTS FROM DAVID:

-Expectations are high for Purdue Fort Wayne.  They were having a pretty unspectacular season until the second half of conference play began, and then they thundered down the stretch and ended up in a first place tie before losing in the semis of the conference tournament.  With four starters back, including a really good all-around player in Jarred Godfrey, they are expected to be frontrunners this year.

-Northern Kentucky has been at or near the top of the conference for several seasons, and it is no surprise to see them up there again.  They also have four starters coming back, and also looked really good in the latter part of the season before losing to Wright State in the HL Championship Game.  This is my pick to win the league this year.

-Wright State is another program that has just been consistently good with 20+ win seasons in each of the last seven seasons with the exception of the COVID year.  They were in the hunt for a first place finish all through last year and are the defending conference tournament champions.  With a lot of pieces back they should again be in the hunt for a first place finish.

-Oakland has three starters back from a team that won 18 D1 games a year ago, and it would not shock me to see them competing with the teams at the top of the conference.  They were not quite as strong down the stretch last year but also had to battle some injuries to key players.  If they stayed healthy they would have almost undoubtedly finished stronger.

-Youngstown State has never made a lot of noise in this conference.  In fact off the top of my head I cannot really remember a year where they ever finished in the top half of it.  But, expectations are higher than normal this year.  They return a lot of key pieces from last year’s team and add some pretty good looking transfers.  This team might be able to battle this year!

-Detroit Mercy has an outstanding player in Antoine Davis but it is hard to say how good the rest of his supporting cast is.  They do add a couple of transfer players and will need to get some production out of them if they want to solidly land in the top half of the conference.

-Cleveland State has been one of the strongest teams in the league for the past two years, but I guess people are expecting them to take a substantial step back this year.  They have a new coach in Daniyal Robinson after Dennis Gates departed for a P5 program.  They also lost a lot of key players who were instrumental in their recent success so they are in a bit of a rebuilding mode right now.

-Robert Morris won just eight total games last year and four the year before that.  Four starters are back, and experience can be an indicator of future success, but they still have a long way to go.  They have added some freshmen who they should be able to get some production out of as well as some notable transfers.  While I think we will see some improvement out of RMU this year, I do not think we will see them in the top half of the league.

-Expectations were high last year for Milwaukee due to having Patrick Baldwin Jr. on the roster, but he is now in the NBA after playing in just 11 games last season. And…well…everyone else is gone too.  No starters return and Milwaukee is now back at the drawing board.

-Green Bay won just five games a year ago and seems to be going in the wrong direction as a program.

-Last season IUPUI finished the season with just three total wins and five available players.  They were unable to bring anyone off the bench during their last few games because they had no one!  Things will likely be rough again this year but they cannot possibly be as bad as they were a year ago.

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MEAC Media Day Recap and Response

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MEDIA DAY PRESEASON POLL:

  1. Norfolk State
  2. NC Central
  3. Howard
  4. Morgan State
  5. Coppin State
  6. UMES
  7. Delaware State
  8. South Carolina state

 

MEDIA DAY PRESEASON ALL-MEAC 1ST TEAM:

-Nendah Tarke – JR, G – Coppin State
-Elijah Hawkins – SO, G – Howard
-Kris Bankston – SR, F – Norfolk State
-Joe Bryant – SR, G – Norfolk State
-Justin Wright – JR, G – NC Central

MEDIA DAY PRESEASON ALL-MEAC 2ND TEAM:

-Steve Settle – JR, F – Howard
-Da’Shawn Phillip – SR, G – UMES
-Malik Miller – SR, G – Morgan State
-Eric Boone – SR, F – NC Central
-Kris Monroe – SR, F – NC Central

MEDIA DAY PRESEASON ALL-MEAC 3RD TEAM:

-Corey Perkins – SO, G – Delaware State
-Nathaniel Pollard – SR, F – UMES
-Dana Tate – SR, F – Norfolk State
-Brendan Medley-Bacon – SR, C – NC Central
-Rahsaan Edwards – JR, G – South Carolina State

 

COMMENTS FROM DAVID:

-The majority of this league looks like it will be heading to the First Four in Dayton if they happen to win the conference tournament, but not Norfolk State.  They won 24 total games last year, blew through the regular season with 12 conference wins, and advanced to the NCAA Tournament.  With four starters back they look like they are just head and shoulders above everyone else.

-NC Central won 16 games last year after winning just 5 the year before and finished a very respectable 3rd in the conference.  With three starters and several contributing players back, including Justin Wright (a good all-around player and very good outside shooter), expectations are once again high.

-Howard is another team that drastically improved last season, winning 16 total games after winning just 1 the year before and 4 the year before that.  They are having to rebuild a little but, but they have enough coming back that they should be able to continue to progress as a program.

-Morgan State has two of their top scorers back, but will also be looking for a lot of guys to step in to new roles and become contributing players if they want to finish in the top half of the conference.

-Coach Juan Dixon is entering his 6th year at Coppin State and has yet to really get rolling.  They won just nine games a year ago and are not showing many signs of being able to win a whole lot more than that this year.

-UMES has four starters back from a team that won 11 total games a year ago, and was not playing too terribly badly down the stretch.  I do not think they will contend for the top of the conference, but we may see them finish closer to the middle of it than what we are typically used to.

-Delaware State and South Carolina State are bringing up the rear.  South Carolina was a modest 7-7 in MEAC play last year but a lot of the pieces from that team are now gone.  Delaware State was winless a year ago, and ended up taking home their second Centenary Award!!!  They have a much better chance of repeating as Centenary Award winners than finishing at the top of the conference.

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Colonial Athletic Association Media Day Recap and Response

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MEDIA DAY PRESEASON POLL:

  1. Towson
  2. Hofstra
  3. Delaware
  4. Charleston
  5. UNC Wilmington
  6. Northeastern
  7. Drexel
  8. William & Mary
  9. Stony Brook
  10. Monmouth
  11. NC A&T
  12. Elon
  13. Hampton

 

MEDIA DAY PRESEASON ALL-CAA 1ST TEAM:

-Aaron Estrada – SR, G – Hofstra
-Cam Holden – JR, G – Towson
-Jameer Nelson – JR, G – Delaware
-Charles Thompson – SR, F – Towson
-Nicolas Timberlake – SR, G – Towson

MEDIA DAY PRESEASON ALL-CAA 2ND TEAM:

-Jyare Davis – SO, F – Delaware
-Shykeim Phillips – SR, G – UNC Wilmington
-Reyne Smith – SO, G – Charleston
-Jahmyl Telfort – JR, G – Northeastern
-Amari Williams – JR, F – Northeastern

 

COMMENTS FROM DAVID:

-It is hard to not be excited about Towson this year!  They won 25 games last year after winning just 4 the year before, and with four starters back they are the preseason favorites to repeat as the 1st place team, and may be in a position to do more than just that.  This is a team that could be on the bubble, or even inside of it, come Selection Sunday.  Pat Skerry has done a great job as head coach and it is exciting to see how he has built this program up.  They are balanced, they can score, they can shoot, and they have a fairly deep bench.  In short, this team is GOOD!!

-Hofstra is another team that can make quite a bit of noise.  Coach Speedy Claxton won 21 games in his first season last year and brings back three starters including Aaron Estrada who may be the best player in the conference.  They should get some pretty good production out of a couple of transfers that they added so do not sleep on the Pride this year!

-Delaware is another team that won 20+ games last year and won the CAA Tournament to advance to the NCAAs.  While they should be good again this year they did lose two key starters.  Still, it looks like they have a good core group of players and could once again be a tough team in this year.

-Charleston has a really good coach in Pat Kelsey: he did okay in his first season last year at 17-15 overall.  While I think they will be better this year, I also think 4th sounds about right, which is where the Media Day Experts have put them.  They also struggled with injuries last year and should be better this year if they can stay healthy.

-UNC Wilmington was tied with Towson for 1st place last year.  The problem is that so much of that team is now gone.  Two starters are back, including a good player in Shykeim Phillips. I think they will be in the top half of the conference standings, but not at the top of the top half.

-I like Northeastern’s coach (Bill Coen) but they simply have not been good for the past two seasons and it now has me scratching my head a little bit.  They do return three starters, and went into the transfer portal to try and shore up some more help, but if they fall flat again this year we will start to wonder about the temperature of Coach Coen’s seat.

-Drexel was a modest 10-8 in league play last year and lost some key players from that team.  They do not appear to have a whole lot of strength in the frontcourt and that could definitely be a problem for them this year.

-William & Mary seems to be good at controlling the tempo.  The problem is they seem to struggle at everything else.  They won just five total games last year, and while they should be a little better this year, it is a bit of a stretch to say they will be good.

-Stony Brook begins their first year as a member of the CAA and have their work cut out for them.  They did win 18 games last year, but the America East is not quite as strong as this year’s CAA. They also lost several key players from that team so it could be a bit of an uphill climb for them.

-Monmouth won 21 games last season and nearly made the NCAA Tournament, but lost to Saint Peter’s in the MAAC Championship Game.  All five starters from that team are gone and Monmouth now appears to be in a complete rebuilding mode.

-NC A&T is also new to the league this year.  They struggled in the Big South last season and will likely struggle in a much tougher CAA this season.

-Elon has just one starter back from a team that only won ten games last season so expectations are not high.

-Hampton is also new to the league.  Hampton also struggled in the Big South last season.  Hampton will also likely struggle even more this season.

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Northeast Conference Media Day Recap and Response

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MEDIA DAY PRESEASON POLL:

  1. Merrimack
  2. Sacred Heart
  3. Saint Francis U
  4. Wagner
  5. Saint Francis Brooklyn
  6. Central Connecticut
  7. Fairleigh Dickinson (tied 6th)
  8. Long Island
  9. Stonehill

 

MEDIA DAY PRESEASON ALL-NEC TEAM:

-Josh Cohen – JR, F – Saint Francis U
-Nico Galette – JR, F – Sacred Heart
-Rob Higgins – SR, G – Saint Francis Brooklyn
-Jordan Minor – SR, F – Merrimack
-Nigel Scantlebury – SR, G – Central Connecticut

 

COMMENTS FROM DAVID:

-Merrimack is the consensus favorite to finish atop the league.  The one big unfortunate part is that they are still a transitional team, which makes them (unfairly) ineligible for the NCAA Tournament.  If the point of a transitional period is to help a team assimilate to D1, then isn’t winning a conference championship evidence that they have properly assimilated??  Can we cut it back to say…two years instead of four??  Anyway, three starters are back from a team that played really well in the second half of conference play last year, and they have a majorly good big man in Jordan Minor.  They do appear to be the best team in the conference.

-Sacred Heart has been really bad the last two years so to see them picked 2nd is a bit of a surprise.  Just two starters are back from last year’s team, and while they do have some other contributing players who are returning along with some transfers, a 2nd place finish seems optimistic.

-Saint Francis U has had back to back really bad years where they failed to win ten total games in either season.  Four starters are back, and they are adding what appear to be some talented freshmen as well, so maybe they can get things turned around this season.

-Wagner was one of the better teams in the conference a year ago, but four of their top players are gone and they also have a new head coach: the change in the roster is probably why they were not picked higher than 4th.  The current players will need to step up in bigger roles if the Seahawks are going to be successful.

-Saint Francis Brooklyn has one of the greatest home courts in all of college basketball!!  They have never played in the NCAA Tournament and it does not look like that will change after this season.  They do have a pretty good guard in Rob Higgins but he cannot do it all on his own: other guys will have to step up.

-Central Connecticut has won fewer than ten total games for the past three years, and while they may be a little better this year, I do not think we’ll see them in the top half of the standings.

-Fairleigh Dickinson won just four total games last year and are in a rebuilding mode this year.  Their roster has been overhauled, which may be what they need in order to start to rebuild.  Tobin Anderson takes over as head coach…and he has his work cut out for him.

-Long Island had a decent year last year, but with so many contributing players from that team now gone, it looks as though they are at the bottom of their talent cycle and may be in for a very long season.

-Welcome to D1 Stonehill!!  It is their first year as a transitional team and those types of teams are typically picked to finish close to last.

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America East Media Day Recap and Response

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MEDIA DAY PRESEASON POLL:

  1. Vermont
  2. Bryant
  3. UMass Lowell
  4. Binghamton
  5. UMBC
  6. Albany
  7. New Hampshire
  8. NJIT
  9. Maine

 

MEDIA DAY PRESEASON ALL-AMERICA EAST TEAM:

-Max Brooks – JR, F – UMass Lowell
-Jacob Falko – SR, G – Binghamton
-Dylan Penn – SR, G – Vermont
-Charles Pride – SR, G – Bryant
-Finn Sullivan – SR, G – Vermont
-Earl Timberlake – JR, G – Bryant

 

COMMENTS FROM DAVID:

-Vermont has been the flagship program in this conference in recent years and they pretty much blew through it last year with a 17-1 record.  Most of the starters from last year are gone, and they will be relying on some new freshmen/transfer players this year to step into key roles.  It would be crazy to ever say that Vermont will not be in the mix, but part of me wonders if them being picked first is due to their recent past success rather than their actual expected success for this year.  Having said that, though, a lot of the teams in this conference are rebuilding this year, so…

-Bryant is new to the league and they have shown drastic improvement in recent years.  The competition in the America East will likely be a little tougher than the NEC, and just one starter returns from a year ago, but they have added some high-caliber transfers and should be competitive right away.  Being picked 2nd at Media Day is an indication of how high the expectations are.

-UMass Lowell has four starters back and we should see some improvement with that experience, but they did not look all that strong in the second half of conference play and ended up finishing just 8th in the conference last year.

-Like UMass Lowell, Binghamton has four starters back.  Also like UMass Lowell, they were really unimpressive in the second half of conference play last year.  They do appear to have a pretty talented backcourt, though, and could make some noise this season.

-UMBC has two starters back as well as some transfers coming in, but they are expected to take a step back after last year’s second place finish.  Still, it would not shock me at all to see the Retrievers in the top half of the league.

-Albany has struggled for a while, but we did see some improvement last season.  Unfortunately, most of the key players from that team are gone, and they are in a bit of a rebuilding mode now.   They do have a few decent looking transfers coming in and will need them to step up if they want to be successful.

-New Hampshire seems to always be closer to the bottom of the standings the top, and this year is not looking any different.  I would love to see this program get it going, and while they do have a good player in Miles Coleman, I do not think they have enough to compete with the top of the league.

-After showing a lot of signs of life after initially transitioning up, NJIT has been sleepwalking for the last three seasons and it looks like it will be more of the same this year.  We at Hoops HD still love the original Team of the People, though!!

-And as for Maine!!  Well…I don’t want to totally count them out of having a chance to win the Centenary Award, but I just do not think they are quite THAT bad!

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