Season preview: HoopsHD interviews new Vanderbilt women’s coach Shea Ralph

We are keeping our fingers crossed in the hope that we can return to a “normal” version of college basketball this fall: fans in the stands, announcers without masks, etc. Nobody knows exactly what is going to happen but we will try to restore some order with season previews featuring the best players/coaches in the country. We conclude our coverage with new Vanderbilt women’s coach Shea Ralph. HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel got to chat with Coach Ralph about winning 7 titles and her expectations for this season.

You set a North Carolina state record by scoring 39.1 PPG as a junior at Terry Sanford High School: what is the secret to being a great scorer? I do not think there’s a secret: like anything, being really good at something takes patience/work/having great teammates. When I was at Terry Sanford I learned the value of making sure that I focused on making the other players on my team better by setting good screens, cutting hard, and trying to get every rebound. I just did a lot of things that I knew our team needed and could put them in positions to be successful on the court. By proxy of the team that I played on I just had to score a lot of points. Thankfully, that was something that I really liked to do! I do not think that there was a secret to it: part of it was just me liking to score points and see the ball go through the net, and par of it was that it was what my team needed me to do. It was much more difficult in college: everybody can score points in high school. College was much more difficult and it took me a lot longer to learn how to be a complete player.

You won the 1995 Dial Award as the top high-school athlete/scholar in the US with a 4.2 GPA and in 1996 you were named the national High School Player of the Year: how did you balance your work on the court with your work in the classroom? I do not think I always balanced it well. It took some time for me to learn because I loved being on the court so much, especially later in my high school career. Sometimes I needed a little bit of nudging from my mom or my teachers. 1 of the traits that I am attracted to in players that I am recruiting is people who want to be great at everything they do. That includes wanting to be great basketball players, great students, great people, daughters, sisters, friends, teammates: all of those things. It is just something that you have inside of you. Thankfully, that was a trait that I was given by God, and I am grateful for it. It did not always come easy. I had to learn how to balance and time manage because I loved to play basketball so much. Fortunately, I had great guidance and my parents/teachers let me know that there would be no basketball without making sure my studies were aligned and everything was taken care of because one day the ball will stop bouncing…and they were right. It is something that I try to emphasize to our players now.

You were a player/assistant to Geno Auriemma at UConn: what makes him such a great coach, and what was the most important thing that you ever learned from him? Those are tough questions and I do not think there is simply one answer to either one of those. There are a lot of things that make him a great coach and there are a lot of important lessons that I learned from him. One of the things that I think separates him is his ability to know his players and know which buttons to push to absolutely maximize their potential. That is not a skill: it is just something innate that he has in terms of knowing people and relationships and all of that, like understanding what drives people. He was given that and has done really well with it and obviously developed it over the years with the different kinds of people that we worked with. He just has an innate ability to connect with people and figure out how they need to be pushed to be great. To me, that separates him from a lot of other coaches. In terms of what I have learned: I could talk to you for the next half hour about that, but as I enter this role at Vanderbilt it is about resiliency/consistency. Knowing that people are looking at me now everyday I have to figure out what they need from me in everything that I do. I have to set a standard not only for my players but for my staff and myself every day, and make sure that I take care of them both on and off the court. I think you need that with any great leader, but that was one of the things that I took away that I really am able to apply right now during this rebuild.

What are your memories of your final college game, which some have called “the greatest women’s basketball game ever played” (the 2001 Big East tourney title game where you tore your ACL in the 1st half before Sue Bird made a buzzer-beater to clinch a 2-PT win over Notre Dame)? Um, I remember that we won! I remember finding Sue after the game after she hit that shot and we exchanged a few words. That meant a lot to me as a player, but you know a lot of that is a blur. I do not think in that moment I thought it was going to be my final game and I was not ready to accept that. I thought maybe I could try to figure out a way to keep playing because I did not yet know that it was my ACL…again, so I did not view it as the end. One of the takeaways from my career at UConn was that they made me a better person and a better teammate. Obviously, I had a lot to be disappointed about in that game, but that is not what I felt. At the end, I felt excitement and joy for my teammates for what they overcame. I know it was not easy for them to see what happened to me, but they all stepped up and accomplished something really cool. And we celebrated all night: I remember that. I mean, it was a joyous moment and that will always be my memory of that night.

You won the 2000 NCAA title as a player and 6 more titles in an 8-year span from 2009-2016 as an assistant coach: what is the key to winning championships? If there were tangible answers to that question that a lot of other people would win championships. I think a lot of teams would be really good and win if it was an exact science, but it is not. The key to winning anything and being great at anything for a long period of time is people, so you have to find the right ones and create the kind of culture that promotes growth/integrity/leadership. We get a lot of credit as coaches but I think that we probably get too much credit sometimes. What we do as coaches is really important in terms of helping our players succeed but we cannot play for them. Great players make great coaches. There were a lot of things that went into that long period of success. Most of it was finding the right players and the right staff, putting them all together, and then constantly feeding it every single day. That is the case for any great team/organization. UConn was lucky to do it for a really long period of time, which speaks to the kind of leadership that they have, but also to the players. You do not win that many championships without great players: you just don’t. One of the things that I talked about earlier was Coach Auriemma’s ability to connect with people. He is a great recruiter: he knew the kind of people that he wanted to have on a team and on a staff and he went out and got them and then developed them. That is how you win championships but it is not easy to do because it is not an exact science. We made some mistakes at UConn and we did not win championships every year but I learned that it is not as easy as people make it seem. UConn is this powerhouse and they steamroll people. It is very hard to stay on top: you are constantly having to challenge yourself and your players and find different ways to define your success because anything less than a championship is a failure. That is a lot of pressure but when you find the right people who welcome that and embrace it, then it is also really, really hard to top a team like that.

You were hired by Vanderbilt last April: why did you take the job, and how is it going so far? I took this job because I think it is one of the best jobs in the country (if not the best) for a lot of different reasons. Vanderbilt University speaks for itself academically. We are in the best competitive conference in women’s college basketball, and at the end of the day it was about the people: you win championships with people. So, talking to the leadership, not only in athletics with Dr. Candice Lee, but with Chancellor Daniel Diermeier and all of the other coaches/professors throughout the university, it was abundantly clear that this place is extremely special from the very top down…so it was absolutely a no-brainer. It has been challenging: this program was in need of something different so that is a process and a journey, and you cannot skip any steps. I know that to be true because I have been part of it. UConn was not “UConn” when I got there. They were not where we are now, but they were also not the program they are now. It is going to be exciting and there will be hills and valleys. For me the key is going to be consistency and resiliency. This is not going to be easy but it is going to be amazing and I am excited with the people that we have on our staff. I am excited for our players to approach this season, especially after COVID and all of the things they went through during the last couple of years to finally have a season where they can get out and play with their teammates and compete. We just want them to be their very best every single day, and to me that will be a win.

Your non-conference schedule includes a trip to the Paradise Jam in November for 3 games in 3 days vs. Arizona/Rutgers/DePaul: how do you plan to get through that coaching gauntlet featuring Adia Barnes (2021 NCAA tourney runner-up)/Doug Bruno (made the postseason every single year since 2003) [note: Rutgers recently announced that Vivian Stringer (5th-most wins in women’s college history) will be sitting out this season due to COVID concerns]? I am going to coach the way that I coach every day. I am excited about the competition and am looking forward to the trip with our players because it is over a holiday and we will be together and be somewhere really nice. We are grateful to our athletic department for making this trip happen for our team. It will be challenging but that is the only way that you get better. I will not coach any differently at a tournament that I do today or tomorrow or any other day and hopefully my players will feel that way and feel that for me. Again, consistency will be there for them. My approach and my demeanor every day is that we are going to prepare like we would prepare for any game and my concern is never our opponent: my concern is always about our own growth.

Your husband Tom Garrick played in the NBA and is now 1 of your assistants: what is the best part of having your husband as an assistant? We obviously talk a lot about having a family environment in schools: we literally are a family environment because he is my husband, right?! He is a great guy…although I am a little bit biased. I know that to be factual, but even more than that I know he is an incredible coach so I need him on this staff. He has been a head coach before and our demeanors/styles complement each other. At the end of the day I know that he is going do whatever it takes to make sure not only that I succeed but that we succeed as a team and a program here. We talked about doing this for a very long time and just had to find the right place so we are enjoying every moment. The coolest part is that I know he is the exact person I need next to me in a job of this magnitude.

Your mother Marsha was an All-American basketball player at North Carolina: who is the best athlete in the family? I am totally not answering that: it is a trick question because we are all great athletes!

What are your goals for this season, and what are your expectations for this season? Instead of calling them goal we call them “standards”. We need to really shorten our view and take a day-to-day approach with this team. Are we better today than we were yesterday? And if not, then what do we need to do to become better tomorrow? What are the lessons that we learned today? My standards and expectations for the team, always, are to do what you can do well and control what you can control. Do that every day to the best of your ability: that includes our effort, attitude, consistency, how we treat each other, and how we respond to both success and adversity. At the end of the day, for me and this team, we will define success by whether were we able to reach our full potential. What does that look like for this team? We have no idea. Most of these kids did not play last year and if they did it was in a small role, so we have a lot to learn about ourselves. I am not going to box our expectations in by numbers that you see on a stat sheet in terms of wins and losses or points per game: all of that is yet to be determined. I just want this team to reach its full potential both on and off the court.

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News, Notes, and Highlighted Games: Tuesday, Nov 9th: SEASON OPENER!!

NEWS AND NOTES:

-So, let me start with this…

HAPPY COLLEGE BASKETBALL SEASON EVERYBODY!! 

There are 184 games today.  More games are being played today than on any other day of the season.  It’s not even close, really.  When you do the write-ups every day throughout the season, you learn things like that!!

-As for all the games today and what they all mean, everyone is technically starting out at zero.  Nearly everything that I say in today’s writeup is purely speculative.  For all I know, the Toledo @ Valpo game could end up being of much higher importance at the end of the season than the Duke vs Kentucky game.  That’s one of the things that’s so great about college basketball.  Teams ultimately play their way (for the most part) into whatever position they end up in.  If the SWAC gets out there and wins 80 percent of their out of conference games, they’ll be sending 7 teams to the NCAA Tournament.  Nothing is predetermined.

But, there is no way to look at today’s games without being able to speculate, so…

 

HIGHLIGHTED GAMES:

-KANSAS VS MICHIGAN STATE (Champions Classic) (***Spotlight Game***).  It’s two highly ranked teams playing on a neutral floor.  It’s a chance for both of them to get a (likely) high caliber win away form home right out of the gate.  Both teams are expected to be protected seeds, and generally a way to solidify yourself as a protected seed is to win games against top 25 caliber teams away from home.

-DUKE VS KENTUCKY (Champions Classic) (***Spotlight Game***).  Just like the other Champions Classic game, the importance is obvious.  It’s two highly ranked teams that we think can end up as protected seeds looking for a high caliber win right out of the gate.  #1 seeded teams almost always have wins like this on their resume.

-ALCORN STATE AT WASHINGTON STATE.  This is a straight up buy game, but it is also the first regulation game of the season!!  So, it gets highlighted!!

-AKRON AT OHIO STATE.  This is obviously a buy game, but it has enough intrigue to be highlighted.  The last time the Buckeyes took on a really good UTR team, they lost!  I think Ohio State is good enough to once again end up with a #1 or #2 seed, but they don’t want to overlook this Akron team, that could really give themselves an early season boost if they can pull the upset.

-SOUTHERN ILLINOIS AT LITTLE ROCK.  Southern Illinois is a team that’s on our radar this year, and this is a winnable road game for them to open the season.

-BELMONT AT OHIO U.  This game won’t get major headlines, but it is a hugely important game between two really good UTR teams that we think have a chance at playing their way inside the bubble.  This is the kind of OCC games that we live for!  It’s a high stakes game for two Under the Radar teams right out of the gate!!

-NORTHEASTERN AT COLGATE.  I don’t think either team ends up inside the bubble, but it’s still a fun game between two good UTR teams that we think can end up at or near the top of their conference standings.

-EVANSVILLE AT CINCINNATI.  This is technically a buy game, but we think the Missouri Valley could send multiple teams to the tournament this year, and while Cincinnati appears to be the better team, they better not completely overlook the Aces.

-DELAWARE AT DAVIDSON.  This is another fun one to kick off the season.  Delaware will likely be one of the frontrunners in the Colonial, and Davidson is always well coaches and could be good enough to make some noise in the A10.  While I’m pretty sure this is technically a buy game, Davidson better not overlook the Blue Hens!

-APPALACHIAN STATE AT IONA.  Another good early season UTR match-up between two teams that made the NCAA Tournament last season and have high expectations for this season.

-HOFSTRA AT HOUSTON.  This is a buy game, and it could end up looking very much the way most buy games end up looking when it’s over, but Hofstra looks to be good enough to where they can give the Cougars a better game than most teams who end up on the receiving end of buy games.  And, it’s a chance for Hofstra to make a huge splash early in the season

-MOREHEAD STATE AT AUBURN.  This is a buy game, and it could end up looking very much the way most buy games end up looking when it’s over, but Morehead State looks to be good enough to where they can give the Tigers a better game than most teams who end up on the receiving end of buy games.  And, it’s a chance for Morehead State, who made the NCAA Tournament a year ago, to make a huge splash early in the season.

-ABILENE CHRISTIAN AT UTAH.  This is another buy game that involves a team on the receiving end that is above average.  ACU went to the NCAA Tournament a year ago, and while they are rebuilding somewhat, Utah better not completely overlook them.

-SAINT THOMAS AT CHICAGO STATE.  Welcome to D1 Saint Thomas!!!

-PEPPERDINE AT RICE.  Some of us believe that Pepperdine may be a bit of a dark horse this year.  If that’s true, then this should be a winnable road game for them.

-JACKSONVILLE STATE AT WICHITA STATE.  This could be a sneaky good game.  It’s a buy game, but Jax State is well coached and Wichita State better not overlook them.

-LOUISIANA TECH AT ALABAMA.  Alabama is a team that we think can win the SEC, and earn a protected seed, and go deep into March.  We don’t think LA Tech is quite that good, but we do think they are one of the better UTR teams out there who can contend for the top spot in Conference USA, and perhaps even a spot inside the bubble.  If they can pull off the upset tonight, that will go a long way toward getting them in the field.

-UC IRVINE AT NEW MEXICO STATE.  This is another fantastic match-up between two very good Under the Radar teams.  We could be hearing from both of them in March, and if they have hopes of landing inside the bubble, then these are the kinds of games they need to be playing (and of course, winning).

-BRADLEY AT SOUTH DAKOTA STATE.  South Dakota State is another very good Under the Radar team that’s worth keeping an eye on.  They should be able to start things off with a win tonight.

-ORAL ROBERTS AT COLORADO STATE.  Colorado State is who we like to win the Mountain West, and we could see them breaking in to the top 25 later on.  Oral Roberts went on an amazing run last year, they have the bulk of those players back (albeit not all of them) and could be very dangerous this year.  This is a great game for both these teams right out of the gate!

-UC RIVERSIDE AT SAN DIEGO STATE.  This is a buy game, and it will probably end up being lopsided, but UC Riverside has made tremendous improvements to their program in recent years, and it will be interesting to see what they can do against a tournament caliber team right out of the gate.

-CHATTANOOGA AT LMU.  Chattanooga will likely be toward the top of the pack in the SoCon, and LMU is a potential dark horse in the WCC.

-CLEVELAND STATE AT BYU.  Cleveland State is another really strong Under the Radar team that we think can win the Horizon League.  If they can somehow manage an opening night win at BYU, then you’re suddenly talking about them being good enough to land inside the bubble.

 

BUY GAMES

-Mount Saint Mary’s @ Villanova
-UC San Diego @ California
-Mary Baldwin (nonD1) @ Winthrop
-Saint Peter’s @ VCU
-Eastern Michigan @ Indiana
-Central Connecticut @ UConn
-IUPUI @ Butler
-Bellarmine @ Purdue
-Texas Southern @ Oregon – TX Southern is a SWAC favorite, but is probably still way overmatched
-Loyola MD @ North Carolina
-Quinnipiac @ Maryland
-Siena @ Saint Bonaventure – Big Four
-Oakland @ West Virginia
-USC Upstate @ South Carolina
-FIU@ Georgia
-NC Central @ Richmond
-Boston U @ Rhode Island
-Portland @ Arizona State
-UIC @ Dayton
-Lafayette @ Syracuse
-The Citadel @ Pittsburgh
-Presbyterian @ Clemson
-Fairfield @ Providence
-Miami OH @ Georgia Tech
-UNC Asheville @ UAB – may not be a buy game, but UAB is good enough to land inside the bubble, so we’ll list it as one
-New Orleans @ Ole Miss
-Canisius @ Miami FL
-Niagara @ Xavier
-Mississippi Valley State @ Saint John’s
-Jackson State @ Illinois
-Tennessee Tech @ Memphis
-Mercer @ Arkansas
-Alabama State @ Western Kentucky
-Nicholls @ Northern Iowa
-SEMO @ Missouri State
-Saint Francis Brooklyn @ Wisconsin
-Western Illinois @ Nebraska
-Arkansas Pine Bluff @ Creighton
-UL Monroe @ LSU
-Elon @ Florida
-McNeese @ SMU
-Northwestern State @ Oklahoma
-Coppin State @ Loyola Chicago
-Bucknell @ NC State
-Maine @ Virginia Tech
-North Florida @ Texas Tech
-Central Arkansas at Saint Louis
-Kennesaw State @ Iowa State – As bad as Iowa State was a year ago, any win is a good win
-Central Michigan @ Missouri
-Coe College (nonD1) @ Drake
-SIUE @ Marquette
-Dixie State (soon to be Utah Tech) @ Gonzaga
-Houston Baptist @ Texas
-Navy @ Virginia
-Cal State Northridge @ USC
-Utah Valley @ Boise State
-Southern @ Louisville
-UC Davis @ Utah State
-Tarleton @ Stanford
-Montana State @ Colorado
-Eastern Washington @ Nevada
-Longwood @ Iowa
-Prairie View A&M @ Saint Mary’s
-Northern Illinois @ Washington
-Portland State @ Oregon State
-Northern Arizona @ Arizona
-Long Island @ San Francisco
-Cal State Bakersfield @ UCLA

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Bracket Projections: Preseason JNG

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This bracket was put together with our preseason JNG Rankings.  CLICK HERE FOR THE ENTIRE LIST

Joby Fortson is who puts the rankings together, and he can explain what is going on here better than I can.  I did want to emphasize that while we have a preseason ranking that you can see in rank order, for all practical (and even technical) purposes, all teams are starting off at zero.  We discovered that for the sake of context, starting everyone out at zero and posting the rankings each week simply created results that were not practical.  So, for the first few weeks, Joby draws from a combination of data projections and from the previous season for a better context, but that will quickly be phased out.  Soon, all the data that goes into these rankings will be data from the 2021-2022 season.

COMMENT FROM DAVID:  Joby made this very difficult for me to bracket!!  For starters, he had Oklahoma State on the #7 line, and since they have since been disqualified, I had to move everyone up one spot.  That bumped Oklahoma inside the First Four, and Oregon State into the field.  This also created three Pac 12 teams in the First Four, which is why Colorado is playing Arizona.  Lastly, BYU had to be moved.  I don’t know if Joby did this on purpose or not just to make it hard on me, BUT I AM BLAMING HIM FOR IT!!!

 

COMMENTS FROM JOBY:

Gonzaga is still king in the early rankings as their projections and their performance from 2020-21 where they were in the finals propels them not just on the 1 line but easily the over-all #1 seed.  Some teams (cough cough Baylor) are still getting a lot of benefit from a stellar 2020-21 season but in a few weeks that will be a distant memory as soon as all team schedules are “connected.”  Nevertheless, I still feel it comes out as a strong preseason assessment that will (hopefully) lead to the JNG once again securing the top spot among formulas for projecting the field.  This would make the JNG #1 for 6 of the last 7 seasons (not including 2020 of course) since its creation in 2015.

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In Memoriam: HoopsHD interviews Bud Ford about Ray Mears

Ray Mears stopped coaching in the 1970s but his career winning percentage of 74.7% still ranks among the best in NCAA history. He played basketball at Miami University and was later inducted into the school’s Athletics Hall of Fame. As a coach at Wittenberg University he won the NCAA College Division Basketball Tournament in 1961, then moved to Tennessee where he won 3 SEC titles and was 2-time SEC COY. HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel got to chat with former Tennessee SID Bud Ford about “Big Orange Country” and the Bernie & Ernie Show. Mears passed away in 2007 but today would have been his 95th birthday so we take this time to celebrate his life/legacy.

Mears played college basketball at Miami (OH) as a walk-on: how did he get into coaching? He was coaching at Wittenberg and had just won a national title when Tennessee was looking for a head coach. He was hired here to build up a program that had not been successful in several years.

He became coach at Wittenberg in 1957 and led the Tigers to 4 conference titles in 6 seasons as well as a 4-PT win over SE Missouri State in the 1961 D-2 title game: what did it mean to him to win a title? He was a very innovative coach: some of the things that he was doing in terms of promotions were ahead of his time. He did a lot of public speaking and created a booster group to promote the game. He created a holiday tournament and had our team warm up to “Sweet Georgia Brown” while using an orange and white basketball. He wanted everyone in Knoxville to come and watch the game so it helped that not all of our games were on TV. We would have made a bunch of NCAA tourneys but for the fact that Kentucky was the only SEC who kept making it because they always won the conference.

He became head coach at Tennessee in 1962: why did he take the job? He had been in junior college and wanted to coach on the D-1 level at a school that had a chance to compete against teams like Kentucky and coaches like Adolph Rupp. He was able to motivate his team to play the Wildcats: we even won several games on the road.

He was known for wearing his trademark orange blazer during games: how did he come up with the concept of “Big Orange Country”? Our arena originally had a capacity under 10,000 people, but after enlarging the arena he brought in the marching band to walk all around the floor while playing the fight song. 1 time we even had a local weightlifter wrestle a bear! We had an “Orange Tie Club” whose members all wore orange ties to games.

In the 1967 NCAA tourney Ron Widby scored 20 PTS but his shot in the final seconds rimmed out in a 1-PT loss to Dayton: did you think the shot was going in? I did not attend the game but I thought it was going in as I was listening to the game on the radio. Dayton had a really good team featuring Don May.

In the 1977 NCAA tourney Bernard King/Ernie Grunfeld each had a double-double before fouling out in a 5-PT OT loss to Syracuse: where does that rank among the most devastating losses of his career? Those 2 players each averaged 25 PPG in our run-and-gun offense. The enthusiasm for those players helped us move to a bigger arena. Syracuse had a rookie coach at the time named Jim Boeheim. I think that our most disappointing loss was to VMI in the 1976 NCAA tourney: King missed that game due to a sprained thumb. Coach Mears like the challenge of playing good teams so we traveled to a lot of good tourneys around the country.

He was a 2-time SEC COY: what did it mean to him to receive such outstanding honors? He was certainly a driven person. I hoped that we could get him into the Hall of Fame: his health issues cut his career a little short but he was still 1 of the great coaches of his era.

His career record of 399-135 still ranks among the best winning percentages in NCAA history and he never had a losing season in 21 years on the sideline: what made him such a great coach? He played a controlled offense and a 1-3-1 defense. He was also great at recruiting local players who were great athletes like Widby. He had an intensity for detail about him. He had an offensive efficiency rating system to calculate how many points you were scoring per possession: we were always tops in the nation with 1.5 or 1.6. We also were great at defensive FG% and seldom allowed opponents to shoot 50 FG% against us. We also had a great FT% and had great ball-handlers who would get fouled because there was no shot-clock back then. He believed that certain people did certain things: shooters would shoot and defenders would guard the ball.

After retiring as a coach he spent 10 years as athletic director at Tennessee-Martin: why did he take the new gig, and how did he like it compared to coaching? He did a great job at Martin: his health was what really forced him to stop coaching. He later returned to Knoxville and came to all our games. To this day every coach that followed him will wear an orange blazer when we play Kentucky or Vanderbilt as a tribute to Coach Mears.

He passed away in 2007: when people look back on his career, how do you think he should be remembered the most? There is no question that he will be remembered as a promoter but also as a very good tactician/coach. He was intense and tried to make his teams ready to play so that they were into the game.

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Handing out the Hardware: Exhibition players of 2021

The start of November means that the regular season is right around the corner: finally! We take this time to recognize the best players in college basketball during the 2021 exhibition season. HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel has reviewed all of the numbers and is ready to announce his picks for the 5 best performances from the past few weeks based on all-around stats. If you think that he has overlooked anyone then feel free to tweet us your comments.

G: Isaiah Wong (Miami): 40 PTS/8-14 3PM/10-10 FT/3 STL/3 BLK in win over Nova Southeastern

G: Ryan Rollins (Toledo): 30 PTS/11-20 FG in win over Hillsdale

G: Omari Moore (San Jose State): 23 PTS/8-13 FG/13 REB/3 STL in 4-PT win over Cal State East Bay

F: Norchad Omier (Arkansas State): 22 PTS/8-13 FG/17 REB/4 BLK in 6-PT win over Blue Mountain College

F: Zach Wrightsil (Loyola New Orleans): 26 PTS/9-16 FG/12 REB in 8-PT win over New Orleans

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Unbelievable upset: HoopsHD interviews former Gardner-Webb coach Rick Scruggs

Rick Scruggs spent several decades as a head coach at many different schools including North Greenville/Belmont Abbey/Pikeville/Milligan/Gardner–Webb/Mars Hill. He had a 30-win season and a couple of postseason appearances but 1 of his greatest games was his 2007 road opener at Rupp Arena. His Gardner–Webb squad showed up in Lexington as a 25-PT underdog, then proceeded to score the 1st 14 PTS of the game and ended up beating the Wildcats by 16 PTS. HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel got to chat with Coach Scruggs about playing a game in prison and cancelling a game when the referees did not arrive. Today marks the 14th anniversary of that unbelievable upset so we take this time to reflect on a wild win.

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You once played an exhibition game inside the Atlanta Federal Penitentiary: what the heck was that like, and did you make sure to let the prisoners win the game?! I was actually at Oglethorpe University in Atlanta. We were scared to death: they counted us when we arrived and told us not to leave the group, take a shower, etc. We discovered that we had the same color uniforms as the prisoners so we had to wear their “away” uniforms…even though they never played an away game! I scored 12 PTS and we won the game: some prisoners told us that they had money on us to win so we felt more pressure in that game than we did the rest of the year. What got me is that they had 3 prisoners acting as refs…but it was some of the best officiating that we had all year, which may prove my point about where I think officials should be! 2-3 of our guys took their “away” uniforms as a keepsake but I did not want to run the risk of getting caught stealing state property and having to return to the prison. It scared me to death: if 1 of the prisoners was coming at me on a breakaway, should I take a hard foul on them?!

In 1995 you became head coach at Gardner-Webb, and 5 years later you were named conference COY: why did you take the job, and what did it mean to you to win such an outstanding honor? When I was at Milligan College we went to the national tourney. There were several jobs that I thought I would enjoy taking on and Gardner-Webb was at the top of the list. I went after it hard and took it as quickly as I could. I knew that it would be a lot of work due to the lack of talent/attendance so we had to build it up from scratch. The best day of my life was the day I got married…but getting that job was probably #2. I have a great record at every level of basketball from JC/NAIA all the way up to D-1, which not a lot of coaches can say.

In 2000 Gardner-Webb made the transition from D-2 to D-1: why did the program make the switch, and what is the biggest difference between D-2 and D-1? They told me during my interview that they wanted to make the switch to D-1, which excited me but did not scare me. They hired us (I say “us” because I think of my wife and I as a package deal) because they had a great visionary president who was big on athletics. He put the money/resources into it but it was tough to play all of those guarantee games against great teams. The stigma of being a D-2 program used to keep us from recruiting some guys, but after joining D-1 we could go after a lot more players.

What are your memories of the 2005 Atlantic Sun tourney final (Gary Johnson scored 19 PTS in a 9-PT win by UCF)? We had split with them during the regular season by beating each other in close games on the road. We got all sorts of publicity when we made it to the final because it was like David vs. Goliath. I remember us being very focused but if possible we might have been too prepared. We played well but the best team won that day. That crushed me because I really wanted to coach in the NCAA tourney.

In 2007 your team scored the 1st 14 PTS of the game en route to a 16-PT win over Kentucky in Rupp Arena despite being a 25-PT underdog (www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbqtWUTLDc): how were you able to pull off the upset, and how did that game change your life (if at all)? We had seen them on TV twice so we had a great feel for them even though it was early in the year. I remember telling someone the night before the game that they were going to have a hard time guarding us and that we had a shot if we could keep Patrick Patterson in check. We had a strong game plan and the kids bought into it. To get an upset on the road you have to have things go your way early (to build confidence) and you have to have good officials (to make sure you do not get robbed on the road). As luck would have it, 2 of the 3 refs that day were good friends of mine! Everything we did early worked great. After we won I told my kids not to do anything stupid like take a victory lap or stomp on the Wildcat logo. The bus ride back lasted 6 hours…but I would not have minded if it would have taken 20 hours! When we got back there were people waiting to congratulate us and I did interviews for 2-3 weeks after that. I got to live like John Calipari/Rick Pitino…and it wore me out. I enjoyed every minute of it and returned every phone call that I got. We scored on 16 backdoor plays during the game. My secretary back then did not know a lot about basketball: when she asked if I would take a call from some guy named “Bob Knight” I told her that I would! He called me to congratulate us on the success of our fundamental basketball. I still have the front page of the next day’s newspaper up on my wall: I love that the emphasis was on the team. Even today it gets brought up at least once a month. It was strange to be recognized at airports and in bookstores, which had never happened before that game. My wife and I could not go anywhere for 3 months without me having to sign an autograph. I will never forget how quiet Rupp Arena got towards the end of the game, but their fans were so classy that they gave us an ovation afterwards.

You had several players from Australia: how are you able to recruit kids from so far away, and what impact do you think that foreign players will have on NCAA basketball in the decades to come? They are already having a big impact due to coaches going back and forth from the US to foreign countries and the talent level increasing around the world. I had a former player who went to Australia who would send me the names of other players back there, and I rolled the dice 1 year to get a kid from the Australian Institute of Sport. Once we brought in some kids who were successful and had them graduate, the Australians started to trust us and we were able to develop a pipeline of talent. There is no language barrier so they can adjust very well to life in the US. They are not as athletic but their big men can step out and shoot from behind the arc.

You left in 2010 after going 8-21 with a schedule featuring the likes of Duke/UNC/Texas: who made your schedule that year, and how do you strike a balance between scheduling good teams and trying to win games? We had to bring in a certain amount of money every year to help the school. Our best player (Grayson Flittner) had microfracture surgery and was never the same after that. Our schedule was generally dictated by money but that final year they asked me to schedule 2 more games in order to prevent budget cuts. I was a team player so I thought it was the right thing to do…and the 2 schools that could best fit into our schedule happened to be Duke/UNC. A high # of guarantee games can really affect a team: we did our part to support the school even when we knew we would take it on the chin.

You later became an assistant coach at Appalachian State to Jason Capel (who was the youngest D-1 head coach in the nation at the time): why did you take the job, and how did it feel to be an assistant with 32 years of coaching experience for a head coach who was only 30 years old? I am really close to Jason’s father Jeff Sr. and have known Jason since he was a ball boy for his dad at Wake Forest. Jeff saw that I did a good job of taking care of players and recommended me to Jason. Jason and I had a 5-hour-long talk and he decided to hire me. Jason has great bloodlines and I feel that he is ahead of his years. The biggest adjustment for me was that I could not stop our practices anytime I wanted to! Jason asked me for input on a daily basis and used a lot of my stuff offensively. He is a class guy who does not have a big ego and it helped that we had 2 other good assistants. We all have different strengths and weaknesses and it was a great relationship.

You had a wild season with 1 game cancelled after no referees showed up and another game delayed after your opponent left its uniforms behind: was it as crazy as it sounds? I told Jason 1 day that he faced more things before Christmas than I faced in the past decade! Jason was a great player himself at UNC because his dad raised him well. I think it was hard for him at the start to work with players who were not as motivated as he was. We had a lot of injuries that year but as we got healthy we became very good.

When people look back on your career, how do you want to be remembered the most? I hope I am remembered as a players’ coach who really cared about the welfare of my kids. I have guys from my 1st high school team who still call me even today, which is nice…even if they call me “sir” or “coach”! I did it the old-fashioned way: building my way up from a junior high school coach to a D-1 coach. I hope that nobody ever forgets the Kentucky win.

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