Under the Radar Games of the Day – Saturday, February 20

Wright State at Northern Kentucky, 5:00 PM Eastern, espn3
Cleveland State at Purdue-Fort Wayne, 5:00 PM Eastern, espn3

The Horizon League regular season championship will be decided today in the pair of games featured as our Under the Radar Games of the Day — Wright State at Northern Kentucky and Cleveland State at Fort Wayne.  After both Wright State and Cleveland State suffered upset losses last night, the two teams remain tied for first place in the Horizon heading into todays regular season finales.

Wright State (17-5 overall, 15-4 in conference) is led by their star player, Loudon Love.  Love is averaging a double-double with 16.7 points and 10.2 rebounds per game.  However, despite being pretty much right on those numbers last night (16 and 10) and having four other teammates join him in double-digits, Wright State still lost 81-75 at NKU.  Northern Kentucky (13-9 overall, 11-6 in conference) had four players of their own in double figures led by 23 from Marques Warrick.  Wright State has the top-rated defense in the Horizon League, but has now given up over 80 points in three straight games and needs to get their defense back in line heading into this evening’s huge contest and the Horizon League tournament.

Cleveland State (15-7 overall 15-4 in conference) is led by Torrey Patton who is averaging 13.9 points and 7.4 rebounds per game.  Despite scoring a team0high 17 last night, the Vikings were unable to contain Purdue-Fort Wayne’s Jalon Pipkins (19 points) and Bobby Planutis (16 points).  The Mastodons (7-13 overall, 6-13 in conference) were able to score the 75-68 upset win and spoil Cleveland State’s chance at takin a one game lead inn the league standings heading into today’s action.

These two games will decide the regular season title and which team will be the #1 seed in the Horizon League tournament, which starts with first round games this coming Thursday (though the top four seeds will not play until Tuesday, March 2).  If either team wins while the other loses, the winner will take the crown.  Should both teams win (or lose), the top seed will be determined by the league’s tiebreaker system, which may actually need the result of today’s Robert Morris at Detroit Mercy game to help figure things out.  In any event, we will have a decision today and our first conference tournament bracket posted by no later than tomorrow morning!

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What a Guy!: HoopsHD interviews Sonny Hill about Hall of Famer Guy Rodgers

There have been a lot of great basketball players to come out of the City of Brotherly Love but Guy Rodgers has to be considered 1 of the best. During college he helped lead Temple to a 3rd-place postseason finish for 3 straight years (1956 NCAA Tournament/1957 NIT/1958 NCAA Tournament) before graduating as the school’s all-time leading scorer with 1767 career PTS. After becoming a territorial pick of the Philadelphia Warriors in the 1958 NBA draft he later tied Bob Cousy’s record of 28 assists in a single game in 1963 and was named an All-Star 4 times in a 5-year span from 1963-1967. He died in 2001 and was posthumously inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2014. HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel got to chat with another Philadelphia legend named Sonny Hill (who has spent more than 50 years in broadcasting, including 30+years with his own radio show on WIP) about Guy’s amazing career in both college and the NBA. Today marks the 20th anniversary of Guy’s passing on February 19, 2001 so we are proud to reflect on his life and legacy.

Rodgers scored 18.5 PPG in his 1st year on the varsity squad at Temple: how was he able to come in and contribute right from the start? Back then there was a rule that freshmen could not play so he only had 3 years of college eligibility. Guy was so good and so far ahead of the game that he could have started at any college in the country even when he was a high school junior. He could handle the ball and had a great basketball IQ so he was more than equipped to do what he did as a sophomore.

In the 1956 Final 4 he scored 28 PTS and tourney MOP Hal Lear scored 32 PTS in a 7-PT loss to Iowa: where does that Owl backcourt rank among the greatest in college basketball history? There is no college backcourt at the level of Hal Lear/Guy Rodgers. Hal set an NCAA tourney record in 1956 when he scored 48 PTS in a 9-PT win over SMU in the 3rd-place game. Guy was the quintessential dribbler/ball-handler. They were both left-handed and quick as a hiccup so they were the ideal combination. The only other comparable college basketball backcourt was Walt Hazzard/Gail Goodrich during the early-1960s at UCLA, who helped lead the Bruins to an undefeated NCAA title in 1964. Walt came from Overbrook High School in Philadelphia and helped put UCLA on the map. Walt was raised by Guy and mentored by Hal, who was a few years ahead of him at Overbrook.

In the 1958 Final 4 he scored 22 PTS in a 1-PT loss to Kentucky: how much of a home-court advantage did the Wildcats have while playing in Louisville, and do you think that Temple would have won the game if his back was healthy? They stole the ball game because of what you said. Kentucky was 1 of the premier teams in the country and the Temple players were dealing with the effects of racism and were treated as 2nd-class citizens. The burden of the environment led to the referees’ calls favoring the Wildcats rather than having a fair game. Guy/Hal were called the “Dusty Twins” due to being a pair of Black players.

He was a 2-time All-American: what did it mean to him to receive such outstanding honors? He appreciated the fact that he could get the recognition but he was so assured of his abilities that it was normal for him to be a dominant player who had a tremendous impact on how the game was being played. Prior to Guy/Hal and other players of the early 1950s there was not a great influx of Black players, and those who came into the NCAA had to deal with the good-old-boy network if they wanted to get onto the floor. Think about how many Black players were given an opportunity to blossom thanks to Coach Harry Litwack at Temple. They were allowed to play the Black game with a little pizazz rather than the mundane White game of passing the ball 3-4 times before trying to score. The Black players brought speed/excitement to the White colleges, where they finally got the recognition despite the good-old-boy network of White coaches.

He scored 11 PTS and had a game-high 20 AST during Wilt Chamberlain’s 100-PT game in March 1962 as the Warriors beat the Knicks 169-147: do you think that Wilt would have been able to hit the century mark without Rodgers’ help? Guy was drafted by the Warriors in 1958 and Wilt was drafted the following year in 1959. Most players did not know how to pass the ball to Wilt: they would pass it to his feet even though he was 7’1”! Guy was Wilt’s mentor so he knew how to throw the ball to him up high. Wilt would get a rebound, pass to Guy while he sped down the floor, and then receive a pass for an alley-oop.

In Game 7 of the 1962 Eastern Division Finals he scored 18 PTS but Sam Jones scored 28 PTS including the series-winning shot with 2 seconds left in a 2-PT win by Boston, and in the 1964 NBA Finals as a member of the San Francisco Warriors he lost to the Celtics in 5 games: was he frustrated to keep making deep runs in the playoffs only to run into the Celtics dynasty over and over? Yes: it was not only Guy but also his teammates such as Paul Arizin/Tom Gola. Nobody else could get by Boston back then so it was just a matter of trying to beat a team that was so well put together by Red Auerbach. Red was ahead of his time in opening the door and letting the Black players in (like Bill Russell). St. Louis owner Ben Kerner did not want a Black player so he traded Russell for Cliff Hagan/Ed Macauley.

He played for a pair of great coaches in Harry Litwack (college)/Alex Hannum (NBA): how were these fellow Hall of Famers able to get the most out of him? If we discuss the best all-time players both physically/mentally it would have to be Guy. He did not need coaches to motivate him but simply support him and allow him to play his game. Harry probably did not let Guy play his total game and use all of the tricks in his bag. Guy grew up when the Harlem Globetrotters were very famous. I played against Marques Haynes (who was the greatest dribbler ever) but Guy did not want to be accused of playing “Globetrotter basketball” so he reserved himself to a large degree. As a White player Bob Cousy could dribble behind his back and get away with it, even though he was just emulating what Haynes was already doing. It was different for Black players so Guy would submerge the things that he did in the schoolyard. Guy could come down the floor, wrap it around his back, and use his fist to punch the ball to a teammate for a layup. He was a great innovator and an extraordinary dribbler. He had tremendous reflexes: if you dropped a dollar bill between his thumb/finger he could catch it before it hit the ground. Pete Maravich emulated the Globetrotters and wanted to be the 1st White Globetrotter but they never accused him of putting on a show.

He led the NBA in AST in 1963/1967, finished 2nd in the league 6 other times, and his 7.8 career APG remains in the top-20 all-time: what made him such a great PG? He saw the game 2 plays ahead of everybody else, whereas most players are only 1 play ahead. I never remember him turning the ball over: I have asked other people the same question and they do not remember him doing that either. When guys like Bob Davies/Oscar Robertson made a pass it led directly to a layup, and John Stockton would get a lot of AST by passing to guys who would make jump shots. Pure assists were the old version. Harvey Pollack was 1 of the greatest statisticians ever: he told me that he went to games at the Boston Garden and watched the official scorers pad Cousy’s AST numbers/Russell’s REB numbers. You have to be careful when you talk about stats and how they are calculated: they are so liberal today. Nate “Tiny” Archibald is 1 of the quickest guards in the history of the sport: I asked him once who could bring the ball up the fastest and with no hesitation he said it was Guy.

In 2014 he was posthumously inducted into the Hall of Fame: how proud were you to see him get inducted? I was in the forefront of the hypocrisy that he was not inducted previously. I lobbied for many many years until his nomination finally went to the Old-Timers Committee.

When people look back on his career, how do you think that he should be remembered the most? I had Oscar on my radio show once and asked him who was the best passer/dribbler/ball-handler that he had ever seen. He does not give it up easily but without hesitation he said Guy. The only player in the history of the Big 5 to be inducted into the Hall of Fame as a player is Guy. The Big 5 was formed in 1956, which was after Arizin/Gola played in college.

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News, Notes, and Highlighted Games: Feb 19th

NEWS, NOTES, AND LINKS

CLICK HERE for our latest Bracket Rundown Video Podcast

-To check out the Survival Board, which we updated last night and what we know to be an invaluable tool for the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee!! – CLICK HERE

-For Chad Sherwood’s UTR Game of the Day, which is an encore of yesterday’s Game of the Day – CLICK HERE

-Michigan and Ohio State both won their games, which sets up a big time top five showdown this Sunday with both teams in position to end up with #1 seeds.

-Wichita State needed a huge win, and they certainly got it.  They held off Houston 68-63 in a game that as close all throughout and that actually came down to the final possession before a flagrant 2 foul resulted in several freethrows pushed the margin to 5.

-Iowa picked up one of their more impressive wins of the year at Wisconsin as they pulled away from the Badgers down the stretch and got a 77-62 win.

-In Under the Radar games, Belmont and Winthrop both had to sweat out their games.  Neither played particularly well, but both held on to win.

-UCLA finally looked impressive again last night after looking rather sluggish for the past several weeks.  They beat Arizona rather comfortably 74-60.

-Oregon got a nice win against Colorado.  The Ducks have been impacted by COVID protocol and haven’t always played up to their ceiling, and their resume really did need some improving.  Last night was a big step in the right direction.

 

HIGHLIGHTED GAMES

-SAINT LOUIS AT DAYTON (Atlantic Ten).  SLU is outside the bubble.  SLU needs to finish strong.  It’s a big game on paper for SLU.  But, more importantly, this is the Arch Baron Cup!  It is the greatest rivalry and spectacle on the planet!!!  READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE

-WINTHROP AT HIGH POINT (Big South).  Winthrop has just one loss on the season, and even though they’ve played a weak schedule the committee should still look at them if they win out, but don’t win the Big South Tournament.

-UTAH STATE AT BOISE STATE (Mountain West).  Both teams are battling for spots in the NCAA Tournament.  Boise State appears to be in slightly better shape, but still needs the win to make their resume look a little more solid.  Utah State is straddling the bubble and still has work to do.  Boise State also won the other night when these two squared off.

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Under the Radar Game of the Day – Friday, February 19

Vermont at UMBC, 5:00 PM, espn3

Groundhog Day was two and a half weeks ago, but our Under the Radar Game of the Day certainly feels like déjà vu all over again as, for the second straight night, we are featuring the America East battle between Vermont and UMBC.  The Vermont Catamounts (10-3 overall and in conference) picked up the huge 80-71 road win on national TV last night to move one game up on UMBC (13-5 overall, 9-4 in conference) in the league standings.  Given that UMBC holds the tiebreaker between the two teams, the winner of tonight’s regular season finale for the two teams will clinch the #1 seed in the conference tournament and the right to host the championship game should they meet there on March 13.

Vermont used an impressive balanced attack to take down UMBC last night, as Ryan Davis (21), Stef Smith (20), Ben Shungu (20) and Isaiah Powell (11) all scored in double figures.  Shungu added 8 rebounds to lead the team.  Vermont was also impressive in their shooting, hitting 10 of 21 from 3-point range and going a perfect 12-for012 at the charity stripe.  UMBC was led by 23 points and 7 rebounds from R.J. Eytle-Rock, followed by 12 points from L.J. Owens and 11 from Keondre Kennedy off the bench.  44.8% field goal shooting, 8-for-22 from long range and 7 missed free throws proved to be too much for the Retrievers to overcome.  They will certainly need to shoot better and try to slow down Vermont’s long-range scoring if they want tonight’s win and the top seed in the America East tournament.

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Hoops HD Bracket Rundown: February 18th

NOTE:  The seedlists and bracket were built before 7pm, est on Thursday, February 18th.  Any games that went final after that, particularly the Wichita State vs Houston Game, were not taken into consideration

The panel members all submitted seedlists ranking teams 1 thru 55, and Chad cross country ranked all of the results to build the overall seedlist.  It is revealed on the air line by line with the rest of the panel seeing the results as the teams are placed in the bracket in a Selection Sunday-ish format, and Chad, Jon and Davis debate, discuss, and assess the teams as they go.

Below is the final version of the bracket, but don’t look at it until you’ve watched the show!!

And for all you radio lovers, below is an audio only version of the show…

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News, Notes, and Highlighted Games: Thursday, Feb 18th

NEWS AND NOTES

CLICK HERE for our latest Under the Radar Video Podcast

-For Chad Sherwood’s UTR Game of the Day between Vermont and UMBC – CLICK HERE

-Loyola Chicago got a huge scare from Valpo, and it actually looked like Valpo had tied the game and forced overtime at the end of regulation, but a would-be rebound and put pack was waived off and a foul was called on the rebound.  The Ramblers survived 54-52 and should hang on to their national ranking and stay inside the bubble.

-Minnesota remains winless on the road.  They played well against Indiana yesterday and led for part of the game, but Indiana pulled away down the stretch and got a nice 82-72 win for themselves while not allowing Minnesota to pick up a win away from home.

-VCU and Richmond was close throughout before the Rams pulled away in the latter part of the game to pick up a big 68-56 win.  It was a rivalry game between two bubble teams, so this one really helps VCU.

 

HIGHLIGHTED GAMES

-HOUSTON AT WICHITA STATE (American).  Wichita State is outside the bubble and this is perhaps their last best chance of getting inside of it.  Houston is currently being projected as a #2 seed and is just looking to hold serve as we head toward the NCAA Tournament.

-IOWA AT WISCONSIN (Big Ten).  This is a resume building opportunity for both teams.  It would arguably be Iowa’s biggest win of the year since it’s on the road against a ranked team, and it would be one of Wisky’s bigger wins as well.

-OHIO STATE AT PENN STATE (Big Ten).  Ohio State is looking to lock up a #1 seed and not slip up before their big game against Michigan this weekend.  Penn State is just 7-10 on the year and despite having some big wins they probably need to at least get to above .500 for the committee to give them a serious look.

-JACKSONVILLE STATE AT BELMONT (Ohio Valley).  Belmont will have some merit for an at-large bid if they win out through the regular season, which they are certainly good enough to do.

-BYU AT PACIFIC (West Coast).  BYU is safely inside the bubble and could even get in on the first ballot if they hold serve and avoid losses to anyone other than Gonzaga the rest of the way.

-SAINT MARY’S AT GONZAGA (West Coast).  Gonzaga appears to be cruising to a #1 seed.  They likely won’t be challenged until the Sweet Sixteen of the NCAA Tournament.

-ARIZONA AT UCLA (Pac 12).  UCLA has been struggling lately.  This is a home game against a decent opponent that is also a rival, which makes it a good opportunity for them to turn things back around.

-WINTHROP AT HIGH POINT (Big South).  Winthrop should get a serious look from the selection committee if they win out, but fail to win the conference tournament.

-SAN DIEGO STATE AT FRESNO STATE (Mountain West).  San Diego State is in the rankings and likely inside the bubble, but their resume is still pretty flimsy looking, so they really need to hold serve in games like this.

-STANFORD AT WASHINGTON (Pac 12).  Stanford is continuing to straddle the bubble, which means they need to hold serve against teams like Washington, who is arguably the worst non-UTR team, but is still good enough to compete with teams that completely overlook them.

-COLORADO AT OREGON (Pac 12).  Oregon is right on the bubble and could really use this win.  Colorado is inside the bubble, but has taken some steps back with some questionable losses and could really use this win.  Both teams should be coming into this with a sense of urgency.

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