Happy Draft-iversary!: HoopsHD interviews former Elon star Jesse Branson

With the 2020 NBA draft taking place next week we will spend the days ahead taking a walk down memory lane with a choice collection of players who are celebrating an awesome anniversary this year. From the 1st player in NBA history to score 2000 PTS in a season (70th anniversary) through the 2000 Pac-10 POY (20th anniversary), these stars have all seen their dreams come true in past drafts. We continue our series with Jesse Branson. He attended the 1964 Olympic Trials, was a 2-time All-American at Elon, and made the inaugural 1968 ABA playoffs. Jesse passed away in 2014 but HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel got to speak with him back in the day and is proud to bring you this never-before-published interview about the 55th anniversary of Jesse getting drafted.

You were recruited by UNC Hall of Fame coach Frank McGuire, but after he left in 1961 his replacement (Hall of Fame coach Dean Smith) did not offer you a scholarship: how angry were you when Smith turned you down, and how good did it feel to turn Smith down when he finally offered you a scholarship after your freshman year at Elon? I was a little upset at the time, but it was not too bad because my high school coach had went to Duke and did not think I would enjoy being at a big ACC school because I was just a country boy. It felt good when he came back and asked me to come there after my freshman year.

You attended the US Olympic trials in 1964: how close did you come to making the team and going to Tokyo? It is hard to tell how close I came: there were a ton of players there.

You were a 2-time NAIA All-American/conference POY at Elon: what did it mean to you to win such outstanding honors? It is hard to put into words. Any player likes to be recognized for what he does and to be chosen 1 of the best players around the country made me feel overjoyed. My hard work paid off.

You remain the all-time leading scorer/rebounder in school history almost a half-century after you graduated: did you realize at the time how prolific a player you were, and do you think that anyone will ever break your records? I did not have any idea what kind of player I was. I did not envision my records would stand as long as they had, but some of my records might never be broken due to the way they play these days with a 10-deep team so the minutes are shared more.

In the summer of 1965 you were drafted 13th overall by Philly (2 spots ahead of Flynn Robinson): did you see that as a validation of your college career, or the realization of a lifelong dream of reaching the NBA, or other? Quite honestly, when I started playing college basketball I had no aspirations of going pro. I finally started to think about it during my senior year and to get drafted that high made me particularly proud. There were only 144 jobs available so to get 1 of them meant a whole lot.

You played 5 games that year for the 76ers: what was it like to have Wilt Chamberlain as a teammate? I thought that Wilt was a super guy, although some people did not like him. He and I got along really well and went out a lot on the road to eat late at night: he could not go out earlier because he was a celebrity. I think bar none he is the best basketball player who ever lived.

After sitting out for 1 year with back problems you scored 13.9 PPG in 78 games for the ABA’s New Orleans Buccaneers in 1967: what was the biggest difference between the ABA and the NBA? The biggest difference was the fact that the NBA had bigger centers, but if you throw that out there was not much difference. There were a lot of quality players in the ABA who did not stick around in the NBA.

1 of your teammates was Larry Brown: what was Brown like as a player, and could you ever imagine that he would be a college coach 45 years later? It is hard to imagine staying in coaching as long as he has! I always thought that Larry would go into coaching because he lived/breathed basketball and was like a coach on the floor for us in New Orleans. He has a good basketball mind and knows how to handle/motivate people.

Take me through the inaugural 1968 ABA playoffs:
Connie Hawkins scored a playoff-record 47 PTS for Pittsburgh in a 1-PT win in New Orleans in Game 4 of the Finals: what made Hawkins such a great player, and was he just unstoppable that night? He was a great ballplayer. 1 of the things that made him so good were his huge hands: if the ball got anywhere near him he would catch it. He was not unstoppable: he just had a great game and some of our players who normally had good games did not. We probably beat Pittsburgh more times that year than they beat us. We played them in Memphis and I scored 37 PTS against him.

You had a 9-PT loss at home in Game 7 of the Finals: how devastating was that loss, and what was the feeling like in your locker room afterward? It was heartbreaking for all of us. We had played so well that entire year and it would have meant so much to win the very 1st ABA title. We hung around in the locker room with our heads down for a couple of hours before going out to talk to the people waiting for us.

Your son Brian was also a great player at Elon and was named 1988 Academic All-American of the Year: how proud are you of Brian’s accomplishments, and does he credit at least some of his success to genetics? I am as proud of him as anybody could be. I think that he accomplished more as a player than I did. The only thing I had to do with him was to teach him to give 100% effort and play fundamental basketball. I also taught him to take the blame if he did something wrong. He was not the most athletic player but he got more out of his ability than anyone I have ever seen. He would box out and play solid defense.

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The Hoops HD Report: ACC Preview

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The panel runs through all 15 ACC teams and discusses who we think the major players are, who will be safely in the NCAA Tournament, who will be on the bubble, and who will be on the outside looking in.  Virginia, Duke, and North Carolina look to be the strongest teams in the league with Florida State and Louisville possibly right behind them.  The middle of the conference looks a lot stronger this year with Georgia Tech looking a lot better, and NC State and Syracuse also being in the mix.  We cover all that, and much more!!

And for all you radio lovers, below is an audio only version of the show…

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Happy Draft-iversary!: HoopsHD interviews Jerry Breslin about former Fordham star Ed Conlin

With the 2020 NBA draft taking place later this month we will spend the next couple of weeks taking a walk down memory lane with a choice collection of players who are celebrating an awesome anniversary this year. From the 1st player in NBA history to score 2000 PTS in a season (70th anniversary) through the 2000 Pac-10 POY (20th anniversary), these stars have all seen their dreams come true in past drafts. We continue our series with Ed Conlin. He was a 2-time All-American at Fordham, remains #4 in NCAA history with 1884 career REB, and averaged more than 10 PPG during his 7-year NBA career. Ed passed away in 2012 but HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel got to speak with his longtime friend Jerry Breslin about the 65th anniversary of Ed getting drafted.

In December 1953 Ed set a Fordham record with 42 PTS in a 49-PT win over Adelphi (which remains the most PTS scored in Rose Hill Gym) and he is still the school’s all-time leading scorer with 1886 PTS: was it just 1 of those situations where every shot he put up seemed to go in because he was “in the zone”, and do you think that anyone will ever break his records? I was not present and did not see the game, and Ed never spoke to me about that particular game over the years so it is difficult for me to give you any verifiable information concerning what happened that night. You are correct that Ed is still the all-time scorer in Fordham’s history with 1886 PTS. Based upon my knowledge of the makeup of Ed’s teammates in the 1953-54 season, there were three or four really good scorers on the team, so for Ed to score that many points against Adelphi he must have been in a zone. We must keep in mind at that time in history Fordham coach Johnny Bach scheduled a lot of soft teams to play in December, of which Adelphi was one. I do think that someone will break his record at some point. In fact, a few years ago Fordham had a freshman named Eric Paschall who scored 31 points in his first varsity game: based upon that, if he stayed at Fordham for four years then he definitely had the potential to break Ed’s single-game scoring record. However, after his first year he transferred to Villanova and was a starter on their 2018 championship team. Therefore, if the right player is recruited to Fordham and stays in school for three to four years with the 3-point shot, which did not exist during Ed’s day, then that player would have a more than reasonable chance of surpassing the 42 points Ed scored against Adelphi.

In 1953 he led the nation with 23.5 RPG and his 1884 career REB remains #4 all-time in NCAA history: what made him such a great rebounder, and how was he able to dominate the boards while standing 6’5″? I knew that he led the nation with rebounds in 1953 but I did not realize that he had a 23.5 RPG average. When you reflect on that it seems off the charts, which it was. I also did not realize that his 1884 career REB was #4 in the history of the NCAA. Ed was a great rebounder for some of the following reasons: he had broad shoulders and (at that time) sufficient height to fight for rebounds with the best. He told me many times about a man in his neighborhood who had returned from WWII military service and advised him that he should jump rope to help make him a good player. Ed said that he followed this fellow’s advice and got up to doing 1,000 repetitions in each workout. Ed also had a very charming personality/disposition; however, when he was playing under the boards he did so with a ferocious intensity. Ed had those eyes, which many people involved in sports over the years would say were killer’s eyes. Whatever he was attempting to do, he was going to give it 100%, such as successfully grabbing a rebound. He was able to dominate because of the above-mentioned reasons, plus the fact that even though he only stood 6’5″ there were not too many players in college who stood much higher during those years except Bill Russell of San Francisco and Bob Pettit of LSU (whom Ed played against in college). Ed’s physical toughness was verified by one of Fordham’s football coaches at the time: he asked Ed to play football as a tackle, but Ed declined to do. Over the years, I became involved with Bill Bradley’s race for the U.S. Senate and met one of the great college rebounders of Ed’s day: Fletcher Johnson from Duquesne (who ultimately became a doctor studying in Bologna, Italy). At a fundraiser I told Dr. Johnson that I was a friend of Ed’s: he looked at me and said, “Ed Conlin: great rebounder”, so I think that says more than anything I can say about why he was such a dominant force on the boards. If Ed was the best, then Fletcher was probably at least the second or third best college rebounder during the years that Ed played at Fordham and Fletcher played at Duquesne.

In the 1954 NCAA tourney he scored 26 PTS in a 2-PT OT loss to La Salle (Tom Gola scored 28 PTS): how close did they come to beating the eventual champion? You hit the main vein in what Ed would talk to me about over the 40 or so years that we were friends. It was the most disappointing loss of his college/professional career. In those days the NIT was the most prominent college tournament in the nation. Because of the gambling situation in the 1940s and early-50s, then-Fordham president Father Gannon, S.J., would not allow Fordham to play basketball games in Madison Square Garden: this policy changed in later years under other presidents. They were selected to play in the NCAA tournament in 1953 and 1954. The 1954 game was played in Buffalo: as Ed reported to me, Fordham had a two-point lead with only seconds to go. La Salle had possession and was going to take the ball out of bounds at half-court. After a timeout, Ed told each of his teammates to stick with their man and not worry about Gola because I have him. Apparently Gola went to the top of the key with his back to the basket. A young forward on Ed’s team left his man and went to double-team Gola despite Ed’s instructions. La Salle got the ball to Gola at the top of the key, and he hit Charles Singley (who the aforementioned young forward was supposed to be guarding) under the basket for a layup to tie the game. As you know, Fordham ended up losing by two points in overtime. Ed was devastated by that loss: he told me that story about 100 times over the years. He said that La Salle went on to beat North Carolina State in the next round (who Fordham had beaten in the regular season) en route to winning the national championship. If the young forward (a sophomore) had done what Ed asked him to do, then perhaps Fordham would have had a chance to win the championship that year rather than La Salle.

He was a 2-time All-American: what did it mean to him to receive such outstanding honors? It meant a lot to Ed because like most All-Americans he was practicing his game every moment that he could throughout his four years at Fordham: jumping rope, taking foul shots, taking outside set shots, practicing dribbling drills, etc. I sincerely believe that what it meant to Ed was that practice makes perfect and if you put in the time/pain of repetition practicing basketball, at the end of the day you will receive such honors as being an All-American. Ed never even once said to me that he was an All-American one time, let alone two times. I do remember him playing in the college All-Star game during his senior year at Madison Square Garden with some great teammates/opponents.

In the summer of 1955 he was drafted 5th overall by Syracuse (3 spots ahead of future Hall of Famer Jack Twyman): did he see that as a validation of his college career, or the realization of a lifelong dream of reaching the NBA, or other? I believe Ed saw that as a validation of all the hard work and practice time and dedication that he had given to basketball during his college career. As to whether it was a lifelong dream to reach the NBA, I do not know: he never really expressed that thought to me. Over the years, I would have lunch/dinner with him and a few other fellows before college games at the Byrne Arena or Madison Square Garden. He was an excellent conversationalist when talking about his experiences in the NBA but at all times he talked about the other fellow and not about his own accomplishments. For example, he said one time that his team was playing against Elgin Baylor and his coach asked him to forget about offense and just concentrate on defense: to do nothing else in the first half but try and hold Baylor down. Ed told us at the table, “I sure did and played one of the best defenses in a game I could have played.” He then hesitated and said, “Baylor had 24 points at the half,” which led to laughter at the table. 1 year when Ed and Tom Gola were both on the Warriors, they were playing the Lakers in LA on back-to-back nights. As you probably know, Gola was a great defender and besides guarding his man he had a tendency to keep his eye on the ball so he could try to double-team an opponent who had the ball. That particular Friday night Jerry West had 20+ points and while walking off the court Ed cynically said to his friend Gola, “Some defensive job on Jerry West.” Gola responded, “Okay: tomorrow night you guys all guard your own man and I will just guard West.” Well, the following night the great Jerry West only had single-digit points with Gola concentrating on defense and stopping him from having a good night.

In Game 7 of the 1962 Eastern Division Finals with Philly, Sam Jones made the series-winning shot with 2 seconds left in a 2-PT win by Boston: where does that rank among the most devastating losses of his career? Ed told me many times about this particular loss: obviously it was the most devastating loss of his NBA career. I believe I saw the game on television but I have very little memory of the game. I know that when Philadelphia had its last chance Coach Frank McGuire told Ed to take the ball out at half-court and try get it down low to Wilt Chamberlain or Paul Arizin…but it failed and as a result Boston won. He told me that story five or six times, which suggested to me that it was probably the worst loss that he suffered as an NBA player.

He averaged 10.1 PPG during his NBA career: how satisfied was he with his pro basketball tenure? When Ed played at Syracuse you have to remember that Dolph Schayes was the high scorer and Ed was the “other” forward. During his time at Syracuse Ed usually defended the other team’s top center/forward such as Bob Pettit, Cliff Hagan, Tommy Heinsohn, and other future Hall of Famers. When he went to Philadelphia Paul Arizin was on the team as well as Wilt Chamberlain. Ed’s role was that of a role player. Also on that team was Tom Gola. Gola and Ed were great college players but in the pros they were “in-between” players. Both were about 6’5″ and could put the ball on the floor, pass, score from the outside, and rebound in college. However, in the NBA both were out of position. They were not fast enough to be guards and they were too small to be strong forwards in the NBA. My overall impression is that Ed was satisfied with his pro basketball tenure: he played 7 years at that level and gave it all he had.

He later served as an assistant coach to John Bach in 1968 before taking over as head coach for the next 2 years: how did he like working for Bach, and how did he like coaching at his alma mater? Ed was an excellent recruiter for Bach before taking over as head coach for two years. He recruited some of Fordham’s greatest players: Charlie Yelverton, Kenny Charles, Tom Sullivan, Bill Mainor, Bart Woytowicz, and many others. In Ed’s first year as coach he had a .500 record. However, freshmen Charles/Woytowicz were not eligible to play on the varsity at that time. Ed was fired after that year and then came Digger Phelps with all of Ed’s players, and in 1971 he probably had Fordham’s greatest team and lost to Villanova in the East Region Semifinals, but still finished ninth in the nation with the players that Ed had recruited. In regards to how Ed liked working for Bach, he did not comment one way or the other. Ed had a bitter taste in his mouth about how he was fired as coach: he read about it in the newspaper as opposed to having been personally contacted by someone from Fordham, such as the athletic director or someone else in the administration.

In the 1969 NIT Mike Grosso had 23 PTS/22 REB in a 3-PT win by Louisville: how hard did he take a close postseason loss as a coach compared to when he was a player? The 1969 Fordham loss to Louisville was mentioned many times over the years by Ed. He indicated that Fordham had a chance to win that game but a player or two missed a couple of foul shots at the end of the game, which would have either tied the game up and/or put Fordham ahead. That was the most memorable loss he spoke about as a coach at Fordham: he mentioned it more than one time, but did not mention it as often as the 1954 NCAA tourney loss to La Salle.

He passed away in 2012: when people look back on his career, how do you think that he should be remembered the most? Ed will be remembered most by people because at the moment his jersey is the only one that has been retired and is hanging in Fordham’s gym. Over the years Ed was active in alumni affairs and attended many basketball games and other social events held at Fordham. Ed had a great sense of humility and rarely spoke about his accomplishments unless he was urged to by myself or others who may have been in his company. However, he never mentioned rebounding statistics, scoring statistics, or anything to do with his individual accomplishments. His recollections and memories were always about the team and how the team won two big games on the road against nationally-ranked Dayton and Duquesne. More importantly, Ed had a presence so when he walked into a room, especially with his wife Michelle, people would turn and ask, “Who is that?” He had a physical presence and grace and was most comfortable in large crowds.

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Big East Media Day Recap and Response

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MEDIA DAY PRESEASON POLL

  1. Villanova
  2. Creighton
  3. Providence
  4. UConn
  5. Seton Hall
  6. Marquette
  7. Xavier
  8. Butler
  9. Saint John’s
  10. DePaul
  11. Georgetown

 

BIG EAST MEDIA DAY PRESEASON PLAYER OF THE YEAR – Marcus Zegarowski – JR, G – Creighton

BIG EAST MEDIA DAY PRESEASON FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR – Dawson Garcia – FR, F – Marquette

MEDIA DAY PRESEASON ALL BIG EAST 1ST TEAM

Charlie Moore – SR, G – DePaul
David Duke – JR, G – Providence
Sandro Mamukelashvili – SR, F – Seton Hall
Collin Gillespie – SR, G – Villanova
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl – SO, F – Villanova

PRESEASON ALL BIG EAST 2ND TEAM

Bryce Nze – SR, F – Butler
James Bouknight – SO, G – UConn
Mitch Ballock – SR, G – Creighton
Nate Watson – SR, C – Providence
Justin Moore – SO, G – Villanova
Paul Scruggs – SR, G – Xavier

 

NOTES FROM DAVID

Even in a down year, the Big East will routinely have half of their teams make the NCAA Tournament, which is something that no other league other than the Big 12 can really say.  They have a new addition this year with UConn, which means fewer OOC games (although we would have had that this year anyway), and may make things even tougher in what was already one of the premier leagues in the country.  I’m not saying UConn is not a good fit.  They do make sense geographically and culturally.  I am just saying that the league really did not need them to raise its street cred.

-Villanova has won two national titles since 2016, and with four starters back from what was a really strong team a year ago that tied for first place, the Wildcats could once again have a Final Four-caliber team.  Collin Gillespie and Justin Moore make up a fantastic backcourt and they have really good post players as well.  This team has all the ingredients to make a Final Four.

-Creighton also finished in first place and would have likely also been a protected seed a year ago had the NCAA Tournament been able to happen: they also have four starters back.  Despite some of the great teams they have had, Creighton has not made it past the Round of 32 since the NCAA Tournament expanded to 64 teams.  This team was playing so well at the end of last season that they really seemed poised to go on a deep run.  I am glad they have four starters back so they can hopefully have that chance again this year.

-Providence finished last season with six straight wins and was playing so well that some of us were picking them to win the Big East Tournament.  With three starters back as well as some guys who were big contributors coming off the bench last year, this Friars team will likely be dancing this March.

-UConn had a rather unspectacular season last year, but in the latter part of the season they were playing pretty well and were my pick to win the AAC Tournament.  With four starters back this year, I think head coach Dan Hurley has this team positioned to safely make the NCAA Tournament and make quite a bit of noise in their first year back in the Big East.

-Seton Hall looked like a protected seed for much of last season and were 1 of the 3 teams that tied for first place.  They only have two starters back so they will likely be in a bit of a rebuild mode but I still think they end up making the NCAA Tournament in March.  I look for balance and depth and I think they have both of those things.

-Not quite sure what to make of Marquette this year.  At times they looked fantastic last year, but completely fell apart in the latter part of the season losing six of their final seven games.  With just two starters back I have more questions than answers.

-DePaul had an unbelievable non-conference run last year with a 12-1 record by Christmas.  They actually got into the rankings and it looked like they were poised to make the NCAA Tournament.  Then conference play started: the Blue Demons were competitive in game after game after game…but also seemed to lose game after game after game.  There is not much buzz around the team for this year, but with three starters back, including Charlie Moore, I think this team has more pieces in place to be successful than what they got credit for during Media Day.

-For the last two years Xavier has been rather unspectacular until the month of February, but they have a tendency to really click late in the year.  Unfortunately it has taken them so long that they were never really safely inside the bubble.  With just two starters back this year it would not shock me if they once again got off to a slow start.

-No one was really excited about Butler in the preseason last year, but they played like gangbusters in the first two months of the season and climbed to as high as #5 in the nation.  While they did not finish that high, they were still in a position to make the NCAA Tournament.  With just two starters back, the Bulldogs look to be in rebuilding mode…but it kinda looked that way last year too.

-Georgetown did exceed expectations last year despite facing obstacle after obstacle after obstacle.  While that could happen again this year, I am not exactly banking on it.

-The Johnnies could be in for a long year as well.

NOTE FROM CHAD

– I would disagree with the media and David about the Johnnies.  While I am not saying they are a lock for the Tournament by any means, Mike Anderson’s strong defensive style should come into play even more this season than last.  LJ Figueroa and Mustapha Heron are gone but Rasheem Dunn and Julian Champagnie give them plenty of scoring in the backcourt.  The key will be just how well forwards Josh Roberts and Marcellus Earlington develop down low.

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The Olympians: HoopsHD interviews Kenn Johnson about 2012 Olympic bronze medalist Sasha Kaun

The NBA Finals date back to 1947 (when they were known as the Basketball Association of America Finals) and the very 1st NCAA tourney was held in 1939. Olympic basketball competition is even older: it debuted as a demonstration event in 1904 and the men’s version became a medal sport in 1936, with the women finally getting their chance to go for the gold in 1976. The United States has dominated Olympic basketball competition from the start: the men have won 15 gold medals in the 18 tournaments they have participated in during the past 84 years, while the women have won 8 gold medals in the 10 tournaments in which they have competed during the past 44 years. Those of you who were looking forward to the 2020 Olympics opening ceremonies in Tokyo on July 24, 2020 will have to wait an extra 364 days, as the coronavirus caused a postponement until July 23, 2021. Due to the absence of college basketball since mid-March, HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel decided to fill the void by trying to interview as many prior Olympic players/coaches as possible so that you have something to read this year while not watching the Summer Games. We continue our coverage by chatting with Dr. Kenn Johnson, KU alum and author of multiple books about KU basketball, about Sasha Kaun winning an NCAA title for Kansas in 2008 and a bronze medal for Russia in 2012.

Sasha was born in Russia but played high school basketball in Florida and had offers from several great schools including Duke/Michigan State: what made him choose Kansas? “Kansas started recruiting me after the first AAU tournament”. His final list included KU, Duke, and Michigan State. “They were the best schools. All the schools were great. I just felt I fit in at Kansas better. I felt at home there. I hung out with the players and liked them all. The family atmosphere was everywhere but I felt it more at Kansas.” After graduating he said about KU: “No matter what I will go back. It is just a special place, pretty much everything about it.” He and his wife return often.

He played for Coach Bill Self: what makes Self such a great coach? The proof is in the pudding. Self has led the Jayhawks to 3 NCAA Final 4 appearances (2008/2012/2018) and the 2008 NCAA championship. Self was inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in September 2017. He is currently among the leaders in most wins among D-1 coaches in NCAA history. Regarded as the Big 12 conference’s best coach by all measures, his 81.9 W/L% at Kansas is the second highest among all college coaches. He and Sasha had a great relationship. Self said, “Sasha has probably had about as good a career as anybody on our team when you stop to think of it.”

The Jayhawks had a 1-PT loss to Bucknell in the 2005 NCAA tourney and a 4-PT loss to Bradley in 2006 NCAA tourney: what was the mood like in Lawrence after these back-to-back 1st round upsets at the hands of double-digit seeds? Lumbering behind Bucknell the whole game, the team could not shake the slump and ended the season with a 64-63 loss to a no-name team from a minor conference. It is hard to explain how a team with such experience and talent could go into the tank so bad. It was disappointing to see those great seniors, who had worked so hard for four years, go out on a losing note to a minor team. The next season, in 2006, after finishing 1st in the conference (13-3) with an overall record of 25-8, expectations were high against #13-seed Bradley, but the young KU team (who started 3 freshmen/2 sophomores) simply did not contend. In both cases, KU fans were extremely disappointed. I subsequently suggested that KU never again schedule games against teams starting with a “B”!

In the 2007 postseason KU won the Big 12 title game by 4 PTS in OT over Texas, then made it to Elite 8 and Sasha scored 4 PTS in a loss to UCLA: how close did they come to making the Final 4? After returning every key player from the 2006 team that shared the Big 12 regular season title with Texas and defeated the Longhorns for the conference tournament title, the Jayhawks repeated as Big 12 champs (14-2) and expected to contend for the national title in 2007 as the top seed in the NCAA tourney. ESPN’s Andy Katz ranked the Jayhawks as the 2nd-best team in the nation so expectations were high…but the Bruins came on strong while beating KU 68–55, their largest margin of defeat all season.

Take me through the magical 2008 NCAA tourney:
Sasha scored 13 PTS/6-6 FG in a 2-PT win over Davidson: how were they able to hold Steph Curry to 25 PTS and end the Wildcats’ 25-game winning streak? First of all, Sasha also had 6 rebounds/3 blocks. Actually, KU was extremely lucky that Steph missed his last shot: a 3-pointer that would have given Davidson the win.

He scored 4 PTS in a 7-PT OT win over Memphis in the title game: what are your memories of “Mario’s Miracle” (www.youtube.com/watch?v=E84y-SrwUtA), and where does that game rank among the greatest in KU history? It was a comeback for the ages, as the Jayhawks stormed back after being down by 9 PTS with 2:12 left in regulation. They mounted a comeback that will go down as one of the most memorable in KU history to win the 2008 NCAA championship. Kaun said he remembers climbing the ladder, pumping his fist, and clipping a piece of the national championship net at the Alamodome.

He graduated with a degree in computer science and was selected to the Academic All Big 12 Basketball Team 3 straight years from 2006-2008: how was he able to balance his work on the court with his work in the classroom? Kaun was the definition of a student-athlete. His hard work over four years was what every coach/teammate/fan could ever ask for. He became the second Jayhawk to receive the Lowe’s Senior CLASS award, which is presented annually to the Student Athlete of the Year. Wayne Simien won the award in 2005.

In the summer of 2008 he was drafted 56th overall by Seattle (the final draft pick in Sonics history before the franchise moved to Oklahoma City), then was traded to Cleveland for cash, then returned to his home country and won 5 straight Russian League championships from 2009-2013 with CSKA Moscow: what did it mean to him to be drafted, and how was he able to go back to Russia and have so much success? While it was good to be drafted, Kaun felt that he just was not ready for the NBA at the time and decided that going back to Russia was his best alternative. After signing a contract with CSKA Moscow he said, “I am going to a team that is as close to an NBA team as you can find. It is a great organization: a very prestigious club.”

He played for the Russian national basketball team at the 2012 Olympics: what did it mean to him to represent his country, and what did it mean to him to win a bronze medal? Kaun and 11 of his closest friends piled on top of each other at the top of the key in the Olympic Park Basketball Arena after the final horn sounded in Russia’s 81-77 bronze medal victory over Argentina on August 12th in London. “I was so happy. It means everything,” said Kaun. “To be the first team in Russia history to go and win a medal is unbelievable.” He was proud of the fact that he was the first Jayhawk men’s basketball player in the Olympics since Danny Manning in 1988 and the first ever to play for a country other than the USA.

In September 2015 he signed with the Cavaliers but did not play a single game for them during their playoff run to the 2016 NBA championship: what did it mean to him to win a title, and how big a deal was it for him to join Olympic teammate Timofey Mozgov as the 1st Russians to win an NBA title? Kaun was the 12th Jayhawk to win an NBA title. However, his time with Cleveland was disappointing in that they simply did not play him, so the title was not that important and his involvement with Mozgov was minimal: “Unfortunately my role was very limited and small. Still, to be wanted by a team like this and to be part of it has been a phenomenal experience.” Right after the championship he was traded to Philadelphia, and 6 days later he announced his retirement from pro basketball.

His wife Taylor played soccer at Kansas: who is the best athlete in the family, and what has he been up to since retiring? “My wife is very competitive too. In our household it is always fun: we always try to do our best in whatever we are doing. I think it is a good quality to have.” However, it is impossible to try and compare the two. After retiring Kaun said, “I was very blessed and fortunate to play as long as I have. I had a great experience with the Russian national team and professionally. Overall, it has been phenomenal.” He and Taylor now live in Denver but travel to Kansas frequently.

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Happy Draft-iversary!: HoopsHD interviews Rich and Rob Yardley about their Hall of Fame father George

With the 2020 NBA draft taking place later this month we will spend the next couple of weeks taking a walk down memory lane with a choice collection of players who are celebrating an awesome anniversary this year. From the 1st player in NBA history to score 2000 PTS in a season (70th anniversary) through the 2000 Pac-10 POY (20th anniversary), these stars have all seen their dreams come true in past drafts. We commence our series with George Yardley. He was a 2-time All-American at Stanford, NBA scoring champ in 1958, and elected to the Naismith Memorial Hall of Fame in 1996. George passed away in 2004 but HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel got to speak with his sons Rich and Rob Yardley about the 70th anniversary of their father getting drafted.

Your grandfather was the 1st person to captain both the baseball and basketball teams at the University of Chicago: who is the best athlete in the family, and did your dad credit at least some of his success to genetics? RICH: My dad never talked about his dad much but no doubt he had some impact on him. ROB: He was not a big fan of his dad, as he was a vicious/abusive drunk who died due to his drinking. Neither I nor Rich could play a lick.

Your father was a 2-time All-American at Stanford: what did it mean to him to win such outstanding honors? RICH: He never talked about his basketball career. ROB: He felt he was not a true All-American because the West Coast guys would vote for him and the East Coast guys would not: it was very parochial. He was not even a scholarship player at Stanford. Today a “consensus” All-American is a consensus All-American.

In 1950 he was drafted 7th overall by Ft. Wayne (4 spots behind Bob Cousy): what did it mean to him to get drafted, and why did he wait a few years to join the team? RICH: They did not offer him enough money so he decided he did not need them. He also wanted to play in the 1952 Olympics. The West Coast players did not get a lot of respect/recognition even back then. ROB: Being drafted back then was not as big: the salaries were small and baseball was king. He waited because he wanted to play in the Olympics. If it were not for his owner (Fred Zollner, aka “Mr. Pro Basketball”) the NBA would not even have survived. He enlisted so that he would end up in the Navy.

In the 1951 AAU title game he scored 32 PTS for his San Francisco Stewart Chevrolet team in a win over the Colorado Collegians and was named tourney MVP: what did it mean to him to win the title, and how did he like playing for fellow Stanford legend Hank Luisetti? RICH: He said that the AAU was as good as the NBA in those days so he felt that winning the AAU was as big a deal as winning the NBA title. Luisetti was clearly his predecessor. ROB: Those were the biggest thrills of his life. Playing for Stanford, Luisetti was his hero. That box score actually sits in the Hall of Fame: none of his teammates even reached double-digits.

That year he began a 2-year period of service in the Navy, but a broken hand in the final game of the season kept him off the 1952 Olympic basketball team: why did he choose to enlist, and how disappointed was he to miss out on the Olympics? RICH: I assumed there was a draft, as he did not have a lot of respect for the military at all. He was basically guarding the Admiral’s tent: they just wanted him to play basketball. He was crushed to miss out on the Olympics because it was his lifelong dream: I do not think that he ever got over it. I turned down a chance to play on the Olympic volleyball team…and only later did it occur to me that it might have meant a lot to my dad. ROB: He said that missing the Olympics was the biggest disappointment of his life.

He made the NBA All-Star team each year except for his rookie season: how was he able to be so consistent for such a long period of time? RICH: He got his break when Jack Molinas got caught gambling on games. When Jack got bounced out of the league my dad took his spot. ROB: Dad attributes it to different things. He hated training camp and the cold weather so every year he would quit and say that he was not coming back until the team offered him a higher salary than the previous year. He got credit for being a sports negotiation pioneer: he just genuinely wanted to quit.

Take me through the 1955 Finals:
In Game 7 George King made 1 of 2 FT with 12 seconds left, then stole the ball from Andy Phillip with 3 seconds left in a 1-PT win by Syracuse: where does that rank among the most devastating losses of his career? RICH: It certainly did. For years he blamed Hal Greer for missing a layup toward the end…but many years later he found out that it was not Greer! He was a fierce competitor and was always good in the clutch. He said that everyone choked but that the best players learned to deal with it. ROB: That is right up there. There was a blizzard in Syracuse so they only had 3000 people show up for Game 7 of the Finals: I cannot imagine that happening today. He would always say, “The ring is the thing”.

It has been alleged that some Ft. Wayne players conspired with gamblers to throw the series, as evident by the Pistons blowing a 17-PT 2nd quarter lead: did your dad feel that this was real or just a rumor? RICH: My dad was a very moral guy so he would not have gambled on a sport in which he was involved. He thought that was the lowest form of life. I would guess that if that did go on he would not have taken any part in it. ROB: At the time he did not suspect that anyone was cheating, but in hindsight he thought it might have happened. He did not get along with his former teammate Jack Molinas, who later got kicked out of the league due to gambling.

Take me through the 1956 playoffs:
They had a 5-PT win over St. Louis in Game 5 of the Western Division Finals: how on earth did they become the 1st team to ever come back from a 2–0 deficit in the playoffs? RICH: He was a star player and really relished being put in a tight spot. I never even knew that he had played in the NBA until someone told me in the 8th grade. ROB: He thought St. Louis big man Bob Pettit was the best player in the league at that point. In sports you tend to have runs.

In Game 5 of the Finals he scored 30 PTS in a loss to Philly to lose the series: how was he able to play his best when it mattered the most? ROB: He was always the kind of guy who rose to the occasion. He won national titles in tennis as well as some golf tournaments: he always wanted the ball in his hands at the end of big games.

In February 1958 he scored a career-high 52 PTS in a game against Syracuse: was it just 1 of those scenarios where every shot he put up seemed to go in because he was “in the zone”? RICH: It meant a lot to him to be able to perform that well. I think he hit a lot of consecutive shots in that game: he was a perfectionist. ROB: He went off in the final few games of the season and said that none of the great players in the league could be stopped when they put their mind to it. It helped that he was a good outside shooter and a mobile athlete.

He finished that season as the league’s top scorer with 27.8 PPG and became the 1st NBA player to score 2000+ PTS in a season: what was his secret to being a great scorer, and was he considered the best player in the league? RICH: He was a very focused athlete. I think he trailed Bob Pettit in the scoring race before Pettit got injured. He said he cherry-picked his last bucket because the opponent tried to hold him under 2000. That was the year the team moved to Detroit and not many fans showed up. He was into winning as a team, not receiving individual accolades. ROB: He was certainly 1 of the best in the league and was consistently an All-Star: his coach just let him shoot. He said that he would not have traded himself straight up for Pettit, who was a better rebounder. Walter Dukes accused my dad in a magazine of not passing to him because he was racist…but my dad called him and said he did not pass to him because he had terrible hands and could not catch the ball! He also played with Dick McGuire who was a great passer but not as great of a scorer.

What are your memories of Game 7 of the 1959 Eastern Division Finals with Syracuse (he and Dolph Schayes combined for 67 PTS in a 5-PT loss to eventual champion Boston)? ROB: He said that was really the year that his team should have won the title. He hated Coach Red Auerbach and thought he was the most overrated coach in the world, although I do not agree with him. The reason my dad downplayed his scoring record is because the greatest player in the league was not a great scorer (Bill Russell).

He averaged 20.2 PPG in 1960 before retiring at age 31, becoming the 1st player in NBA history to voluntarily retire after averaging 20+ PPG in his final year: how do you feel about the promise he made to your mom that he would retire before you and your siblings started school? RICH: That is a true story and I thought it was great. Part of the reason he quit is that he had an offer to play in another league and an arrangement to get paid $500/game to play home games: no road trips, no practice, etc. If any of the checks had cleared then it would have been a great deal! ROB: That is true and I think it was very commendable of him to honor his commitment to mom. He was making around $20,000/year, so it would be much tougher to retire today if he was making $10 million/year. When the Lakers moved to LA he asked my mom if he could play for the Lakers but Syracuse would not give up his rights.

Following his retirement he started his own engineering company, where he was able to expand his expertise with missiles: why did he choose engineering, and how did he like the corporate world compared to the sports world? RICH: Back then all NBA players had to have a day job…and his day job happened to be a rocket scientist. He actually had some patents and really enjoyed it. He liked competition but did not miss the NBA, as he finally got to do something that he wanted to do. He won several national tennis titles and even played basketball in the Senior Olympics. ROB: He would get really tired of basketball even during the season so it was a great diversion to use his mind in the off-season. Defending a Bob Cousy/Bill Russell pick-and-roll is a great subject, but he also liked thinking about rockets. He was a smart guy who liked using his mind.

In 1996 he was elected to the Hall of Fame: where did that rank among the highlights of his career? RICH: He always said it was not that big a deal but I think that it was really important to him. ROB: He said it did not matter but he loved it. It was a bigger deal than he would let on. He had the shortest career of anyone in the Hall of Fame…but when you make 6 All-Star teams in 7 years it is not always about longevity. He got to see a lot of people at the induction who he had not seen in many years.

In 2004 he died from Lou Gehrig’s Disease: when people look back on his career, how do you think that he should be remembered the most? RICH: He was a basketball player who also had a life off of the court. He was prouder of his off-court accomplishments, as he contributed to society besides bouncing a ball and putting it through a hoop. He built refineries and power plants. Whenever he was asked to speak he said that kids would get a bunch of accolades and money and just put it up their nose, but there is so much more to life than basketball. He also thought that agents were not doing their clients any favors. ROB: At the end of his life he became a Christian, which I think is very important. He was a cerebral and tenacious player: what he most emphasized was playing your hardest and never mailing it in. He enjoyed team sports and never wanted to let down his teammates. Everyone wants to start so the hardest thing is to have a good attitude when you are coming off the bench. He was the shortest forward in the league but would finish in the top-10 in rebounding because he always worked hard.

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