Geaux Tigers: HoopsHD interviews author Marshall Terrill about Pete Maravich

This just might be the best month in LSU’s fabled sports history. Earlier this week the football team beat defending national champion Clemson 42-25 to claim the 4th national title in school history and the second 15-0 season by any team in the modern era. The basketball team has won 4 straight games to start January and is currently the only undefeated team in SEC play despite starting 3 sophomores/1 freshman. Heisman-winning QB Joe Burrow might go down as the greatest gridiron player to set foot in Baton Rouge but there is no WAY that anyone on Will Wade’s squad will ever match the resume of the legendary Pete Maravich: 3-time SEC POY, 2-time national POY, and he remains the all-time leading scorer in D-1 history with 3667 career PTS. HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel recently got to chat with Marshall Terrill about the subject of his book “Pete Maravich: The Authorized Biography of Pistol Pete”.

During high school Maravich was nicknamed “Pistol Pete” due to his habit of shooting the ball from his side as if he were holding a revolver: who gave him the nickname, and how did he like it? It is an interesting question because it has an interesting backstory. Maravich was very skinny and frail in the 9th grade: not only was he undeveloped but was also small for his age…yet his skills were exceptional. It took all of his power to hoist up a shot. To Jerry McLeese, sports editor of the Anderson Independent in South Carolina, it appeared as if he were drawing a pistol from his holster. My co-author (Wayne Federman) and I made it a point to find out who it was and then bingo: we came across a December 1961 article where he wrote, “Friday night ‘Pistol’ Pete Maravich, brother of Ronnie Maravich, popped in 33 points against Pendleton.” The most interesting thing to me is that when he moved to Raleigh the following year (where he finished out his high school years) the nickname did not stick. None of his teammates called him that, and neither did his teammates at Southwood College (later Edwards Military Academy). We noticed the next time his nickname appeared was in a 1967 LSU press release announcing his arrival to the campus. It was clear to me – because I am a reporter and in media relations – that this was drummed up by Coach Press Maravich (Pete’s father) to drum up local interest in his program. I can see it in my mind’s eye: he went right to the head of the sports media relations office (Bud Johnson) and asked him to write it up.

He played for his father Press at LSU: what was their relationship like on the court, and what was their relationship like off the court? It was unlike most father/son relationships, but because I am Serbian and extremely close to my father I do understand it. They were extremely close and you have to understand the dynamic that was at play. Ronnie Maravich was Pete’s half-brother: he was not Press’ kid but Press was good to him. Naturally he felt more bonded to Pete and so the dynamic was Pete and Press to the exclusion of everyone else. Serbians are intense and go full speed at everything with 100% of their energy. They focused all of that energy on basketball. Press was Pete’s mentor in addition to his father, but as they grew older many intimates told me that they were more like brothers. Helen (Press’ wife and Pete’s mother) often complained to them that she felt left out: she eventually committed suicide. Pete knew that Press knew more about basketball than anyone else, a fact that John Wooden told my co-author Wayne (which astounded us). Lastly, Press allowed Pete to shoot the ball and in fact told his teammates that Pete had to shoot the ball 40 times/game for them to win. When your dad gives you the green light to shoot the ball there is not much family friction! When Pete later became a born-again Christian he influenced Press in spiritual matters. They were truly as close as any relationship could be. 1 of Press’ friends put it best when he said that the only fault Press had was loving his son too much. If that is the worst thing that you can say about somebody,then it is not a bad thing.

He remains the all-time leading D-1 scorer with 3667 career PTS/44.2 PPG despite not playing with a 3-PT line/shot clock and being unable to play varsity as a freshman: what was his secret for being the best scorer ever, and do you think that anyone will ever break his records? I think his secret was that he worked so hard. We are talking 8-10 hours/day in the gym during the summer and 6 hours/day during the school year. Sure he had talent…but he put in the hard work. The other component was that when you have a coach who allows you to score as you please it helps get you there. It is possible that someone will eventually break his record but the dynamic in college ball has changed so much. If someone is that lethal in college then they are going to turn pro. My belief is that if someone breaks his record it will be at a smaller school and will involve a player who consciously wants to stay in school specifically to break Maravich’s record.

He was a 3-time All-American but never played in the NCAA tourney: how do you reconcile his amazing individual success with his lack of team success? We have to get real here for a second: I am answering this question days after LSU won the national championship in football. When Pete/Press were there in the 1960s football was THE sport, which meant that Press had to build and recruit from the ground up. Basketball was a minor sport at best. By the time Pete was a senior they were a respectable 16-10. You also have to remember that they took on some of the toughest teams that year and traveled more than any other team in the nation during Pete’s senior year because everyone wanted to see him play in person. LSU was also in a very tough SEC and gave their competition all they could handle, so their record did not truly reflect how good they were.

In the summer of 1970 he was drafted 3rd overall by Atlanta, then averaged 23.2 PPG en route to making the All-Rookie team: how was he able to make such a smooth transition from college to the pros? It was not a smooth transition in the beginning. He had a lot of pressure on him: he joined a very seasoned and cohesive squad that had done just fine without him. He came in not only with a heavy-duty reputation as a scorer but was quadrupling his teammates’ salaries (Maravich was making $250,000/year but the Hawks would not even give Lenny Wilkens $50,000!) and getting a ton of national endorsements/attention. This was all before he turned pro. There were also issues of race because he was seen as the “Great White Hope” and his style of play did not match that of his teammates. It was a lot for a 22-year old to have to adjust to. His play started to improve by midseason and then he turned it around.

In 1973 he finished top-6 in the NBA with 26.1 PPG/6.9 APG: how did he balance his scoring with his passing? That was the thing about Maravich that most people do not realize: he was an exceptional passer and a good pass turned him on as much as any made basket. If you watch his highlight clips he looked to pass much more than he is given credit for. Perhaps that was not the case at LSU but it certainly was as a pro.

On February 25, 1977, he scored 68 PTS/26-43 FG for New Orleans in a win over the Knicks (at the time the most points ever scored by a guard in a single game): was it just 1 of those scenarios where every shot he put up seemed to go in because he was “in the zone”? Yes: he talked about a night where everything would go in. Maravich was a visionary in a lot of ways but also applied visualization techniques to his game. This just happened to fulfill a prophecy and luckily for him it came on the night of a contract renegotiation, so maybe that had something to do with it as well!

After the Jazz placed him on waivers in January of 1980 he signed with the Celtics, where he played for Hall of Fame head coach Bill Fitch/Hall of Fame assistant coach KC Jones and with Hall of Fame teammates Nate Archibald/Larry Bird/Dave Cowens: how on earth did they lose to Philly in the Eastern Conference Finals?! That Philly team was loaded too: Julius Erving/Lionel Hollins/Bobby Jones/Caldwell Jones/Henry Bibby/Steve Mix/Darryl Dawkins…and a Hall of Fame coach in Billy Cunningham. Those Philly teams of the late 1970s/early 1980s often get overlooked by history but they were tough: those division battles were all-out wars. You also have to remember that Maravich’s play was limited. He came off the bench to give them some instant offense but was playing maybe 15 minutes/night.

He died in 1988 at age 40 during a pick-up game in a church gym as a consequence of a previously undetected heart defect: how shocking was his death at such a relatively young age? It was very shocking not only to the sports world but the entire news cycle: his death led the news that night. It was shocking because he was such a familiar figure: it was almost like growing up with a figure from television. Combine that with the facts that he was fit/had a healthy lifestyle/was only 40 years old. His death was painful for many, including myself: he was my sports hero/favorite basketball player. We all knew that The Pistol was special.

He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1987 and in 1996 he was named 1 of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA history (the only deceased player on the list): when people look back at his career, how do you think that he should be remembered the most? As an exceptional, once-in-a-lifetime player who could do it all…except maybe play defense! His life reminds me of that quote from Hamlet: “He was a man, take him in all, I shall not look upon his like again.” Trust me, we won’t.

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News, Notes, and Highlighted Games: Thursday, Jan 16th

NEWS AND NOTES

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-For John Stalica’s UTR Game of the Day between Youngstown State and Northern Kentucky – CLICK HERE

-Auburn suffered their first loss of the season as they fell to Alabama 83-64 in a game that they were never really in.  It’s tough to win on the road, and Alabama had been playing really well lately and while they’re not in any brackets now, they will be soon if they keep playing like they have been.  But, I think this sort of confirms that Auburn is good, but not #1 seed good.

-Kentucky was another top ten team from the SEC that lost on the road.  After a late surge in the final minute to tie the game and making us all think it was going into overtime, South Carolina banked in a three-pointer just past mid-court to pull off the upset win.  Despite the loss, I still think Kentucky is playing better now than they did in November and is continuing to improve.

-The Butler v Seton Hall game was fantastic to watch, and you have to take your hats off to Seton Hall who fell behind on the road against a very good Butler team, but came back and outscored them in the second half by 18pts to pick up the win.  Seton Hall was slow out of the gate, but they are running at full speed now and are playing well enough to finish at the top of the Big East.  Butler has been a surprise team this year, and I think they’ll be able to bounced back from this one.

-Virginia has now lost three straight.  There is no shame in losing on the road at Florida State, who is a legitimate top ten team, but you get the sense that the Hoos are losing their grip and are running the risk of landing outside the bubble.

-Wichita State lost their second game of the year as they fell at Temple 65-53.  Temple’s defense was smothering and in the last few minutes they just pulled ahead.

-Georgetown picked up a big home win against Creighton 83-80.  Georgetown, despite all the turmoil and all the guys who have left the team, have continued to win and are looking more and more like they’re going to be dancing this March.

-Marquette absolutely blew Xavier off the court in an 85-65 win.  I think it’s time to start thinking of Marquette as a tournament caliber team, and to stop thinking of Xavier as one.

-Minnesota picked up another really nice win as they held on to beat Penn State at home 75-69.  Road wins in the Big Ten have not been easy to come by.

HIGHLIGHTED GAMES

-CINCINNATI AT MEMPHIS (American).  Memphis has been struggling.  They barely escaped with a win against South Florida and had lost two straight prior to that.  It’s important that they hold serve at home tonight against a Cincinnati team that is currently outside the bubble.

-UTAH AT ARIZONA (Pac 12).  Utah is sort of hovering around the bubble and could really use a win like this at home.  Arizona’s biggest issue is that they don’t have any road wins, and while they can’t fix that tonight they still need to hold serve.

-OREGON AT WASHINGTON STATE (Pac 12).  This should be a winnable road game for the Ducks, which would keep them on a pace to end up as a protected seed.

-COLORADO AT ARIZONA STATE (Pac 12).  Colorado is in fairly decent shape, but picking up a road win will always help the resume.  Arizona State right now is way outside the bubble and would need to put together a long string of wins to get back into the conversation.

-SAN DIEGO AT BYU (West Coast).  BYU is having a good year and is solidly in the tournament discussion.  They just need to hold serve tonight.

-CALIFORNIA AT USC (Pac 12).  At 13-3 USC definitely has a path to the NCAA Tournament.  The biggest thing they are lacking are quality wins, and that won’t get fixed tonight, but they still need to hold serve against a Cal team that is improved, but in the grand scheme of things still not very good.

-SANTA CLARA AT GONZAGA (West Coast).  Santa Clara is coming off a really big win at Saint Mary’s, which was easily their biggest of the year.  Going on the road to face Gonzaga is infinitely tougher and the win would be infinitely bigger.  Even Chad would have to pay attention to them if they’re somehow able to win this one!

-OREGON STATE AT WASHINGTON (Pac 12).  Washington is in a complete tailspin and unfortunately it doesn’t look like they’re coming out of it.  Oregon State is flirting with the bubble and can help themselves out again if they’re able to get this one on the road.

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Under The Radar: Thursday, January 16th

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Youngstown State (11-7, 4-1) at Northern Kentucky (12-6, 4-2) – 7:00 PM EST (ESPN3)

Tonight’s UTR Game of the Day takes us to Highland Heights, Kentucky where the Norse of Northern Kentucky will host the surging Youngstown State Penguins. Youngstown State had a pair of heart-stopping wins at home last weekend against Oakland and Detroit. Against Oakland, Darius Quisenberry hit a cross-court layup with under 2 seconds remaining to give the Penguins a 61-60 victory. Against Detroit, Naz Bohannon hit a jumper with 22 seconds remaining in the game for a 69-67 victory.

NKU had a couple of early stumbles in league play at home against Green Bay and on the road at Detroit to get off to a 2-2 start in league play. They were buoyed by a 30-0 run at Illinois-Chicago to blow that game open en route to a 68-52 win. Another win followed at IUPUI with relative ease (96-71 over the Jaguars). Tyler Sharpe leads the Norse with 15.4 points a game.

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Under The Radar: January 15th

Tonight’s feature conference is probably our favorite conference, and that’s the Northeast Conference, which gave us another exciting night of games, particularly the Battle of Brooklyn between Saint Francis Brooklyn and Long Island.  Merrimack is actually making quite a bit of noise as a transitional team, and Robert Morris and Saint Francis U are battling for the top spot in the league.

After that we run through the other 21 UTR leagues and discuss how well Akron has been playing, a rough night for Stephen F Austin as they barely held on to beat Central Arkansas, how Liberty is continuing to roll, and how Northern Iowa keeps winning but not dominating.  All that, and more.  And as always, we close with this week’s UTR Top Ten.

And for all you radio lovers, below is an audio only version of our show…

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News, Notes, and Highlighted Games: Wednesday, Jan 15th

NEWS AND NOTES

-For John Stalica’s UTR Game of the Day between Colgate and Lafayette – CLICK HERE

-Clemson followed up their first ever win at North Carolina with a much more surprising upset home win against Duke.  It was just the second loss of the year for the Blue Devils, and while Clemson still has a lot of work to do their prospects are looking a lot better.

-Louisville needed overtime and a somewhat controversial call late in the game to get by Pittsburgh.  Actually, the call was so bad that perhaps it wasn’t even controversial.  It was just bad.  But, Louisville hangs on for the road win nevertheless.

-Villanova also needed overtime to get past DePaul.  Nova appeared to have the game in hand with a double digit lead in the final minutes, but DePaul fought back to get it to overtime.  DePaul has now lost four straight conference games, which is rough because they played well in all the games but failed to get the wins.  Their resume is still good enough to give them a path to the NCAA Tournament, but they have to start stringing together some wins.

-Wisconsin held on to beat Maryland in another Big Ten thriller.  Wisky has been playing very well lately and the value of their resume continues to improve.  Maryland is still in decent shape, but they are also still looking for their first true road win.  Until they get it their resume will be lacking something.

 

HIGHLIGHTED GAMES

-SETON HALL AT BUTLER (Big East).  Seton Hall has won six straight, and is unbeaten in Big East play.  This is perhaps one of the toughest, if not THE toughest, road games of the season so far.  Butler is also unbeaten in conference play, and their only loss on the season was by one point at Baylor.  If Seton Hall wins, they’re suddenly looking like a solid protected seed.  If Butler wins, then they continue to stay on pace for a #1 seed.

-KENTUCKY AT SOUTH CAROLINA (SEC).  Kentucky continues to play well, and this appears to be another winnable road game for them tonight.

-VIRGINIA AT FLORIDA STATE (ACC).  Virginia is now to a point of needing a big win like this just to help shore up their resume and get them back on pace to land inside the bubble.  They’ve lost two straight, and it’s about to get harder, not easier.  Florida State has looked like one of the better teams in the conference and appears to be rolling toward a protected seed.

-CREIGHTON AT GEORGETOWN (Big East).  Creighton is coming off a nice road win at Xavier, which was nice after two straight losses, and has actually cracked the rankings.  They’ve got another tough but winnable game tonight against a Georgetown team that has played well, but has been hit so hard with guys leaving the team that you wonder if they’ll be able to stay on a pace that could get them to the tournament.

-TENNESSEE AT GEORGIA (SEC).  This Tennessee team had gone through a huge setback, but after two straight wins they may be back on the right track.  A win tonight would be huge for them.  Georgia is good, but they’ve had two rough games in a row and could use a win to bounce back from that.

-FORDHAM AT DUQUESNE (Atlantic Ten).  Another winnable game for Duquesne, which will get them to 15-2 on the year.

-MIAMI FL AT NC STATE (ACC).  Both teams have done a few good things, but neither are on cruise control just yet.  This is a game where both teams could really use a win to help boost their resumes.

-INDIANA AT RUTGERS (Big Ten).  Both teams have decent resumes with some good wins, but the biggest thing missing from Indiana’s resume is a really strong road win.  A win tonight would certainly check that box.  It is far easier said than done, though.  Rutgers has also struggled on the road, but they’ve been fantastic at home.

-SAMFORD AT EAST TENNESSEE STATE (SoCon).  A win for East Tennessee State gets them to 15-3, and keeps their at-large hopes flickering.

-WESTERN CAROLINA AT FURMAN (SoCon).  This should be a good game.  We expected Furman to be good, and they will be a tough match-up in the Round of 64 if they can get there, but we didn’t expect much from Western Carolina.  Nevertheless, the Catamounts are 12-3 on the year and have the chance to pick up a really nice road win tonight.

-IOWA STATE AT BAYLOR (Big 12).  Baylor is ranked #2, and should probably be ranked #1.  Iowa State is decent at best, and to pick up a win like this on the road is a very tall order.  It’s Baylor’s first home game since winning at both Texas Tech and Kansas.  Hopefully the fans show up in full force.

-VALPARAISO AT NORTHERN IOWA (Missouri Valley).  Northern Iowa has a path to landing inside the bubble, but they pretty much need to win out in order to do it.

-XAVIER AT MARQUETTE (Big East).  Marquette is inside our bubble for now, but they can’t just hit the snooze button just yet.  They need to hold serve in games like this.  Xavier has struggled ever since conference play began and they need a win in a game like this to get things turned around.

-TEXAS AT OKLAHOMA STATE (Big 12).  We’ve currently got both teams on the outside looking in, and if they want to get back in then a win tonight would be a nice start.

-STEPHEN F AUSTIN AT CENTRAL ARKANSAS (Southland).  There is a decent chance that the committee will select SFA if they win out through the regular season, but lose in the conference tournament.  Anything short of that won’t be enough, though.

-VANDERBILT AT ARKANSAS (SEC).  Arkansas has improved as the season has gone on and is now playing like an NCAA Tournament caliber team.  This one of those games where they need to hold serve.

-AUBURN AT ALABAMA (SEC).  This is arguably (and maybe not even arguably) Auburn’s biggest test of the year so far.  Alabama has dropped two of their last three, but one was an overtime loss to Florida, and the other was at Kentucky.  They have been playing well lately, and they should be way up for this one.

-WICHITA STATE AT TEMPLE (American).  Wichita State has jumped up to #16 in the rankings, which is probably about where they belong.  They are good enough to earn a protected seed and should get it if they can run away from the rest of the conference.  Temple got off to a good start, but has struggled lately, and will once again have their hands full tonight.

-PENN STATE AT MINNESOTA (Big Ten).  Both teams are in our field, and both are having good years, but both could also really use this win on their resume tonight.  Especially Minnesota who has some good wins, but hasn’t been quite as consistently good as Penn State has.

-SMU AT HOUSTON (American).  Houston is coming off a rather inexplicable loss to Tulsa and needs to bounce back.  This Cougar team has looked good at times, but they haven’t always played up to their ceiling and have used up several strikes already.  SMU has a good record, but it came against a weak schedule, so they’ll need some wins in games like this if they want to get the attention of the committee.

-NEW MEXICO AT COLORADO STATE (Mountain West).  If any MWC team other than San Diego State has any chance at all of landing inside the bubble, it’s this New Mexico team.  But, they pretty much can’t lose to anyone other than San Diego State the rest of the way, and they’ll probably need to beat San Diego State at least once.

-STANFORD AT UCLA (Pac 12).  Stanford is off to a great start this season, and this should be a winnable road game for them tonight, which would be their second of the year.

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Under The Radar Game of the Day: Wednesday, January 15th

Colgate (13-4, 4-0) at Lafayette (10-5, 2-2) – 11:00 AM EST (WatchStadium.com)

Today’s UTR Game of the Day takes us to Easton, Pennsylvania for a special morning edition between the hometown Lafayette Leopards and the league-leading Colgate Raiders. This is a “field day” game that will have dozens of school kids in attendance. The Leopards began league play by dropping a game at Boston University in the closing seconds and had a hangover effect in a home loss to Bucknell. They did rebound with wins against Holy Cross and Loyola-Maryland to move up to 2-2 in Patriot League play. Justin Jaworski leads Lafayette with 18 points a game.

Colgate is currently on a seven-game winning streak; their signature win came in come-from-behind fashion at Cincinnati back in mid-December. In Patriot League play, the Raiders won their first four games, including wins at home against American and Loyola and road wins at Army and Navy. Rapolas Ivanauskas averages 13.2 points a game and 7.6 rebounds a game for the Raiders.

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