The Hoops HD Report: February 5th

This week, we begin by discussing the three-on-three tournament taking place at the Final Four this year where each of the 32 conferences will be represented by a team of four.  We also discuss whether Villanova or Virginia is the nation’s top team, and then look at the ACC and talk about how Louisville is slumping and Syracuse is suddenly looking up.  In the Big East, we look at Xavier’s big upcoming game at Butler and what their chances are of earning a #1 seed.  The SEC continues to be a logjam with Texas A&M improving and Tennessee and Auburn continuing to win.  Washington has come on strong out of the Pac Twelve, and Kansas continues to befuddle us with just one road loss, but four losses at home.  And, we also look at how the city of Philadelphia went wild after Temple’s big win at Tulane!!  All that, and much more….

 

And for all you radio lovers, below is an mp3 version of the show…

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Happy Tourney-versary!: HoopsHD interviews Jack Powers about Ken Norton

With the 2018 NCAA tourney tipping off next month, we will spend this month taking a walk down memory lane with a choice collection of coaches who are celebrating an awesome anniversary this year. From an upset of the top-ranked team in the country in the 1958 tourney (60th anniversary) through a 12 vs. 5 upset in the 2013 tourney (5th anniversary), these legends have all carved out a little piece of history in past Marches. We begin our series with former Manhattan coach Ken Norton. He played for Hall of Fame coach Clair Bee at Long Island, then played professionally for the New York Jewels of the American Basketball League, and later became coach of the Jaspers for more than 2 decades where he won 300 games.  Coach Norton passed away in 1996, but HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel got to chat with Norton’s former player Jack Powers, former Executive Director of the NIT, about outscoring Jerry West 29-10 in Manhattan’s memorable 1958 NCAA tourney upset of West Virginia.

Coach Norton played basketball for Hall of Fame coach Clair Bee at Long Island University: how much of an influence was Bee on Norton’s decision to become a coach? Ken always talked about Clair Bee. Ken was an outstanding pitcher on the LIU baseball team but after WWII he decided to become a basketball coach.

In 1936 the LIU team was favored to win a gold medal at the Olympics but they voted to boycott the Berlin Games due to the political situation in Germany: how difficult was it for him to come to that decision? I know it was a team decision but I did not really discuss it with him.

He became head coach at Manhattan in 1946: why did he take the job? The previous coach was future Hall of Famer John “Honey” Russell (who left Manhattan to become the 1st coach of the Boston Celtics).  Norton was at De La Salle Academy in Long Island at the time: they brought him in for an interview and ended up hiring him.

1 of his players (Junius Kellogg) helped initiate the investigation that led to the uncovering of a point-shaving scandal by reporting a bribe attempt to Norton during the 1951 season: how widespread was the scandal, and how proud was he of Kellogg’s commitment to fair play? Kellogg was offered $1000 to keep a game below the point spread: he went right to Norton, who ended up going directly to the local District Attorney’s office. The story blew up after that: it was the 1st big scandal to hit college basketball.  Junius later played for the Harlem Globetrotters before getting into a horrible car accident and becoming a paraplegic (Kellogg was was inducted into the National Wheelchair Basketball Association Hall of Fame in 1981).

In 1957 he was 1 of the leading spokesmen in favor of adopting the 24-second shot clock used by the NBA: why did he support it, and was he in the majority or minority? Ed Steitz was an AD who was on the rules committee and he supported the change along with Kenny.

In the 1958 NCAA tourney you had 29 PTS/15 REB in a 5-PT upset of top-ranked West Virginia: how on earth were you able to hold Jerry West to only 10 PTS? Jerry was a sophomore and the Mountaineers came into New York as the #1 team in the country. I heard that their fans actually skipped coming to the Garden in order to head to the 2nd round game in Charlotte. It was probably the worst day of Jerry’s career…as I am sure that every Manhattan fan who ever sees him reminds him of that game! We all pulled together and it was a great victory for our school.

He also coached baseball/golf and served as athletic director: which sport did he enjoy the most, and how did he like being an administrator? He ran the show up there as far as the athletic department and had to hire/fire the coaches of all the other sports teams. Basketball was his favorite sport dating back to his playing days at LIU. When he was coaching he only had 1 assistant so he pretty much ran the basketball program by himself.

He remains the winningest coach in school history: what made him such a great coach, and do you think anyone will ever break his record? His tenure there was longer than most if not all of the other basketball coaches. A lot of mid-major coaches only stick around a couple of years before moving on to something else. He treated his players very fairly: he was not a screamer but made sure they got things done his way. He learned an awful lot from Clair Bee and always made sure his players got good jobs after they graduated from college.

He died in 1996: when people look back on his career, how do you think that he should be remembered? Kenny used the “clock” offense with 4 men rotating around a center: many tried to copy it but nobody else could get it right. He was an outstanding coach for his time among a bunch of other great coaches in the metropolitan New York area. He devoted his life to the school.

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Bracket Projections From the Puppet!! (Feb 5th)

For Chad Sherwood’s UTR Game of the Day – CLICK HERE

What you see below is, in essence, what the perfect bracket would look like if the season ended today.  I am not trying to guess what the actual selection committee will do on Selection Sunday, nor am I trying to necessarily guess or suppose what the actual committee would do if the season ended today.  Jon Teitel does that, he’s awesome at it, and if that’s what you’re looking for then you should definitely check out his latest bracket by CLICKING HERE.  This is simply what I think the bracket should look like if the season ended today.

Despite the fact that it is essentially perfect, some of my Hoops HD colleagues will undoubtedly want to incorrectly criticize it.  Any disagreement with this bracket is categorically wrong, but if you still want to read it anyway then their comments are below.

NOTES FROM DAVID

-Not only is Xavier on the #1 line, but I have them ahead of Purdue.  They’ve played a tougher schedule, have lost just one more game, and have better wins.  Xavier’s loss at Villanova is basically negligible, and their other two losses at Providence (who has just one other home loss) and to Arizona State on a neutral floor strike me as less damaging than Purdue’s losses to Western Kentucky and Tennessee.  Neither of those are bad, but Xavier’s strike me as being less bad.  Now Xavier has had a few close calls this week, but they’ve managed to win.

-Duke is 4-3 in true road games, which isn’t bad at all, but it’s not #1 seed good when two of those losses came to teams that aren’t likely to make the tournament, including the loss at Saint John’s who isn’t likely to even make the NIT.  Their wins are good, but as of today their only win against a likely protected seed was against Michigan State.  The other teams on the #1 line have done more.

-Cincinnati is way up in the rankings!!  Good for them!!  I don’t have them as a protected seed simply because their next win against a team that is solidly in the field will be their first.  IF they can beat Wichita State (who is slumping but is still solidly a tournament team) then I’ll like them a lot better, especially if they can beat them twice.

-Nevada, New Mexico State, Middle Tennessee, Loyola Chicago, and Western Kentucky are all currently inside my bubble.  They don’t have an abundance of wins against tournament teams, but they have won a lot away from home, and have won games that are difficult to win even though they’re not against tournament teams.  Western Kentucky really blew it this weekend against UTSA or else I would have had them higher.  They still have the win at Purdue, a neutral floor win over SMU, and what is impressive is wins at Old Dominion and at Marshall, who are a combined 19-3 at home.  Two of those three losses were to the Hilltoppers.

-Loyola Chicago also had a tough loss this week at Bradley, but Bradley is also 11-1 at home, and the Ramblers have some tough wins, including the win at Florida.  If this really is about picking the best teams, then the teams that play on the road and beat teams that are tough to beat on the road have got to be given a stronger look than someone who racks up all their quality wins at home against teams that may be in the RPI top 50, but that ultimately lose more road games than they win.

-And finally, we come to Nebraska!!  I’ve decided to expand my projected field to 69 teams this week to make room for Tim Miles and the Cornhuskers, who are winning at an impressive level when you consider the Dark Web Conspiracy they are having to deal with!!  With his coaching greatness, there is no way Nebraska would have lost a game this season if it weren’t for this awful conspiracy!!  THE DARK WEB CONSPIRACY IS REAL!!!!

OTHERS CONSIDERED: Kansas StateVirginia Tech, Oklahoma State, Marquette, Georgia, Mississippi State, Maryland

 

COMMENTS FROM THE HOOPS HD STAFF

COMMENTS FROM JOHN

-The notion of Xavier as a #1 seed is an intriguing one, but it’s a week too early to do so. I would venture a guess that the Muskies only have 4 wins against NCAA Tournament teams at the moment (I no longer think of Marquette as a Tournament team), and only one win against a team that is a protected seed (Cincinnati). Still, the win at Seton Hall is close. The opportunities are certainly there in the next two weeks for Xavier to move up with roadies at Butler and Creighton and home games against The Hall and Villanova.

-Oklahoma and North Carolina have gone in the wrong direction the past few weeks. The Sooners have lost 4 out of their last 5 and actually have a losing record away from home. Even North Carolina’s only noteworthy win in the ACC so far is against Clemson at home. It’s a good thing they scheduled up and beat teams like Ohio State, Tennessee, Arkansas and Michigan.

-Cincinnati failed their tests against Xavier and Florida, but they are dominating the American and are a very respectable 9-2 away from home. That list includes Temple, UCLA, UCF and Buffalo. I’d even argue that Rhody could also be on the 5 line after obliterating VCU on the road last Friday. The Rams’ remaining tests include a pair of games against Davidson and a game at St. Bonaventure.

-Saint Mary’s as an 8 seed is way too low. They had one bad weekend at Thanksgiving and have made up for that with the BYU sweep along with the win at Gonzaga. The Puppet likes teams that win away from home – the Gaels are 9-2 outside of Moraga.

-I also think the Puppet is a little too quick to keep Texas A&M as low as the 11 line. He is clearly hellbent on making sure the Border War takes place in Wichita.

-Western Kentucky – I wasn’t seeing it before their loss to UTSA, and I sure as hell ain’t seeing it now. They have 4 losses against teams that are way out of the field, and even a home loss to Belmont is a Quadrant III loss. Beating Purdue and SMU just isn’t enough to offset that.

-It will probably pain everyone to read this, but where is Temple? It’s certainly fair to say categorically that a team with a losing record in the American is dead on arrival, but wins against Auburn, Clemson, SMU and Wichita State cannot be ignored. Their overall SOS is #2 in the country; they just need a QUANTITY of wins at this point to be dancing. You MUST at least consider the Owls when you have SMU and UCLA making this field.

-Upon further review of the bracket, I’m assuming that the Puppet meant to include UNC-Asheville as an auto-bid winner and not UNC-Greensboro. He’s got nobody in the Big South but 2 SoCon teams listed by mistake.

COMMENTS FROM CHAD

– Belated comments today because I was busy celebrating Temple’s huge win at Tulane along with the rest of the Philadelphia fans today.  It has been mass chaos!!!

– I still would have Duke or Kansas on the 1 line despite their losses this weekend, but I do agree that Xavier is very close to a 1 seed.  What the Blue Devils and Jayhawks did this weekend did narrow the gap significantly.

– I don’t get Arizona.  I would have them on the 4 line at best, they simply do not have the profile of anyone else in that range.  I know they are the best team in the Pac 12, but it is a lousy Pac 12.  They have zero wins away from home against anyone comfortably in the field and only two wins (Arizona State at home and Alabama at home) against teams that should be wearing white — and neither of those is a lock to do so.  This is not a 2 seed profile.

– Maybe one of the reasons for Arizona’s seed is David’s way over-ranking of Arizona State.  The Sun Devils did very nice things out of conference, but are sub-.500 in a league that will be lucky to get 4 bids.  It is almost like David awarded both Arizona schools for losing at Washington this weekend.  Or maybe he DVR’ed those games and hasn’t watched them yet?

– I agree completely with John about St Mary’s.  Having them 3 seed lines below the Zags is a joke.

– I do not yet agree with John about Temple.  I have the Owls moving closer to a bid, but they are not quite there yet.  The good news is that they do not need the quality wins — they just need to avoid any more bad losses.

– Finally, Stephen F Austin does not belong in this field.  The Lumberjacks continue to lose games they should win.  #GeauxColonels

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Under the Radar Game of the Day: Delaware State at North Carolina A&T (And other News & Notes)

Delaware State at North Carolina A&T, 7:30 PM Eastern, ncataggies.com

Returning to a tie for first place with Savannah State is on the line tonight in Greensboro, North Carolina as the North Carolina &T Aggies play host to Delaware State.  The Aggies have been one of college basketball’s best stories so far this season.  After going 1-29 against Division I competition last season, earning themselves a runner-up finish for our Centenary Award for the worst team in Division I, NCA&T enters tonight’s game at 14-9 overall and 6-1 in MEAC play.  The Aggies are led by Femi Olujobi, though all five starters reached double digits in scoring last time out against Hampton.

The Aggies are proving that a team can turn one of the worst performances in D1 into contention for an NCAA Tournament bid in just one season, which may be the best news for Delaware State.  The Hornets are the current front-runners for this year’s Award as they enter play with a 2-22 overall record, 0-22 against Division I foes.  DSU has not won since a November 25 victory over non-D1 Georgia Court, and have not defeated a Division I foe since last March.  They have come close a couple times, include a double overtime loss to Florida A&M and an overtime loss to in-state rival Delaware.  They have also had their share of rather poor performances including a 105-52 loss at Penn in late December.  A win tonight would be a complete shocker, though the games are played on the court and not on paper, so until it goes final, anything is possible.  Just ask St. John’s.

 

OTHER HIGHLIGHTED GAMES

-Sunday was pretty much a chalky day.  Nothing cataclysmic or Earth shattering really happened.  The one thing I did notice was that Temple picked up a real nice win at Tulane, and the City of Philadelphia went crazy!!!  WOW were they electrified!!  Do they love their Owls in Philly or what!!??

-SYRACUSE AT LOUISVILLE (ACC).  Louisville has now lost three of their last four, and although none of the losses were bad they need to take care of business tonight at home to get back on track.  Their next three games, including this one, appear to be against sub-NCAA Tournament teams.

-ALABAMA A&M AT MISSISSIPPI VALLEY STATE.  I only mention this one because of the Centenary implications.  These are two of the worst four teams in div1 this year, and a loss like this would be huge for their Centenary Award resumes!!

-WEST VIRGINIA AT OKLAHOMA (Big 12).  Both teams are good, both have good shots at ending up as protected seeds, but both have also been slumping.  West Virginia did win at home over the weekend, but they had lost five out of six prior to that, and Oklahoma has currently lost four of their last six.  This would be a good win on paper, but it should also help build up some needed momentum off paper as well.

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News, Notes, and Highlighted Games: Sunday, Feb 4th

NEWS AND NOTES

CLICK HERE for Jon Teitel’s latest seed list and bracket projections.

-This has been a crazy year.  Here is what happened just in the Top Ten yesterday:

Purdue had to sweat out Rutgers and won by just 2.

Duke went into Saint John’s, who hadn’t won a game since December 20th, and lost 81-77.

Michigan State survived on the road against Indiana after the Hoosiers had a chance to get the lead with less than a minute to play

Xavier needed overtime to knock off Georgetown at home.

Kansas lost at home (again!!) to Oklahoma State

There are only ten teams in the Top Ten!!  I counted them all to be sure, but there are only ten.  Yesterday, FIVE of them, which is half of them (again, I counted to be sure) played against teams that are not within a hundred miles of the bubble.  Of those five, two lost, one needed overtime to win, and two more won by three points or less!

And Kansas……GOOD LORD!!!!!  I’ve been watching college basketball for a long time, and I’ve been doing this tournament stuff with these guys (either at Hoops HD or in other formats) for over ten years now.  I’ve never seen anything like this.  A protected seed that is more dangerous on the road than at home.  I almost don’t know what to make of it, nor do I really know how to seed it.

-But, anyway, as for the rest of yesterday….

-Washington picked up a huge home win against Arizona.  Their resume had been getting better and better, and this improves it even more.  As for Arizona, the loss isn’t that damaging because of how well Washington has been playing lately, especially at home.

-Missouri picked up a much needed home win against Kentucky.  They were right on the bubble and this will certainly help.

-I’m not as puzzled by Florida as I am by Kansas because we see schizophrenic teams every year, but Florida is definitely schizophrenic.  They were blown out at home yesterday by an Alabama team that keeps playing getter and better as the season progresses.  As for Florida, when you look at the range of their wins and losses, they range from beating Gonzaga and Cincinnati away from home, to losing to Ole Miss and Loyola Chicago.  That’s a wide range, and on any given day they can play anywhere within that range and either look great or look awful.

-Cincinnati won on the road at UConn to continue their winning ways.

-Texas Tech blew it wide open against TCU and the final score really doesn’t indicate how much of a blowout it was.  That was a game that TCU really could have used.

-Oklahoma has now dropped four out of five after losing a fun one at Texas yesterday.

-Saint Mary’s, who’s not in the top ten, but is in the top 15, had to really sweat out a San Diego team yesterday.  After building up what appeared to be a comfortable lead, San Diego came back and almost beat them.

-Texas A&M looked good for the second game in a row and blew out South Carolina.  They may have finally turned the corner.

-Arkansas needs to start to worry a little bit.  They are by no means out of the picture, but they keep slipping further and further down.  Yesterday’s loss at LSU did not help things.

-Florida State picked up a huge road win at Louisville.  The game was close all throughout, but FSU did maintain the lead.  This should give them a nice boost.

-We had two bubblish teams lose road games to non-tournament teams yesterday.  Georgia lost at Mississippi State, and USC went down at UCLA.

-Boise State needed overtime to finish off UNLV at home, but managed to get it done.  This would have been a disastrous loss for the Broncos had they not pulled it out.

-Last, and probably least, Western Kentucky, who we had been touting as a legitimate at-large candidate, shot themselves in the foot yesterday with their loss at UTSA.  It may have been worse than that.  They may have shot themselves in the face.

HIGHLIGHTED GAMES

-SETON HALL AT VILLANOVA (Big East).  We have Seton Hall closer to being a protected seed than they are to being in the bottom half of the bracket, but aren’t entirely sold on them as a top 16 team.  If they can some how pull off this win on the road, we (and everyone else on Earth) would be sold.

-ILLINOIS AT OHIO STATE (Big Ten).  Ohio State is continuing to cruise and should end up safely in the top half of the bracket if they continue to hold serve.  If they’re able to knock off some of the heavyweights either during the season or in the B1G Tourney, they still have an outside shot at a protected seed.

-WISCONSIN AT MARYLAND (Big Ten).  We have Maryland on the outside looking in right now, but they’re at least close enough to the bubble to be able to look in.  They won’t be if they lose this game, though.

-ARIZONA STATE AT WASHINGTON STATE (Pac Twelve).  It would not be good for Arizona State if they lost this game.  It really wouldn’t be.  It’s perhaps the most winnable road game in league play, and if they drop this and fall 3 games below .500, it would not be good.

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Bracketology 2018: March Madness Predictions (Version 6)

We are only 5 weeks away from Selection Sunday as we begin to make our NCAA tourney predictions. Last March HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel correctly picked every single 1 of the 68 teams that made the tourney, 63 of which were within 1 spot of their actual seed, including 43 right on the money. He will spend the upcoming weeks predicting which 68 teams will hear their names called on March 11th. See below for his list of who would make the cut if they picked the field today and if you agree or disagree then feel free to tweet us. To see how we stack up with other websites (ranked 4th out of 113 entries over the past 5 years), check out: www.bracketmatrix.com

SEED: TEAM (CONFERENCE)
1: Villanova (Big East)
1: Virginia (ACC)
1: Purdue (Big 10)
1: Kansas (Big 12)

2: Xavier (Big East)
2: Duke (ACC)
2: Auburn (SEC)
2: Clemson (ACC)

3: Michigan State (Big 10)
3: Oklahoma (Big 12)
3: Cincinnati (AAC)
3: Texas Tech (Big 12)

4: Arizona (Pac-12)
4: Tennessee (SEC)
4: North Carolina (ACC)
4: West Virginia (Big 12)

5: Kentucky (SEC)
5: Ohio State (Big 10)
5: Seton Hall (Big East)
5: Rhode Island (A-10)

6: Florida (SEC)
6: Wichita State (AAC)
6: Miami FL (ACC)
6: TCU (Big 12)

7: Gonzaga (WCC)
7: Creighton (Big East)
7: St. Mary’s (WCC)
7: Nevada (MWC)

8: Butler (Big East)
8: Louisville (ACC)
8: Michigan (Big 10)
8: Florida State (ACC)

9: Arizona State (Pac-12)
9: Texas (Big 12)
9: Alabama (SEC)
9: Arkansas (SEC)

10: Texas A&M (SEC)
10: Providence (Big East)
10: Washington (Pac-12)
10: Kansas State (Big 12)

11: USC (Pac-12)
11: NC State (ACC)
11: Missouri (SEC)
11: Houston (AAC)
11: Virginia Tech (ACC)
11: Marquette (Big East)

12: Middle Tennessee (CUSA)
12: New Mexico State (WAC)
12: Loyola-Chicago (MVC)
12: Buffalo (MAC)

13: Louisiana-Lafayette (Sun Belt)
13: Vermont (America East)
13: East Tennessee State (SoCon)
13: South Dakota State (Summit)

14: Belmont (OVC)
14: Northeastern (CAA)
14: Wright State (Horizon)
14: Montana (Big Sky)

15: Bucknell (Patriot)
15: UC Santa Barbara (Big West)
15: Rider (MAAC)
15: Stephen F. Austin (Southland)

16: Florida Gulf Coast (Atlantic Sun)
16: Wagner (NEC)
16: Penn (Ivy)
16: Radford (Big South)
16: North Carolina A&T (MEAC)
16: Arkansas-Pine Bluff (SWAC)

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