Throwback Thursday: Thanksgiving Tournaments

Click here for David Griggs’ rundown of today’s NCAA action; also click here for Chad Sherwood’s rundown of today’s featured under-the-radar contest in Nashville.

While the Thanksgiving holiday was originally a quiet portion of the college basketball calendar with the exception of a few holiday tournaments, the popularity of Thanksgiving week (and some cases prior to the week of Thanksgiving) tournaments has exploded in recent seasons. One of the original capstone moments came not during Thanksgiving but rather prior to Christmas in 1982 when Virginia was upset by the Chaminade Silverswords, a small Marianist college in NAIA located in Hawaii.

Beginning in 1984, the Maui Invitational became a popular “exempt” tournament for NCAA teams. This meant that a team could play up to 3 games but only have it count as one game on a team’s regular season schedule. Nowadays, a team can play a maximum of 4 games as part of a bracketed event, even if 1 or 2 of those games are considered non-bracketed. The Maui Invitational has featured 4 champions of the tournament who would go on to win the national title – Michigan in 1988, North Carolina in 2004, North Carolina in 2008, and Connecticut in 2011. It has also featured a previous champion who would be an eventual national runner-up in Arizona in 2000. There used to be a period when teams could only play in 2 exempt tournaments every 4 seasons, but that restriction was lifted in the mid-2000s. This may have best been summed up by the 2003 champion Dayton Flyers – they beat Central Michigan, San Diego State and Hawaii to win the Maui title that year.  The real irony here is that Dayton has arguably had better performances in Maui when they had 3rd-place finishes in the tournament; each year they would get a pair of wins against notable NCAA Tournament teams (i.e. Connecticut and Maryland in 1999) that would help catapult them to what was then a rare at-large bid for the Flyers in the 1999-2000 season.

Another tournament that used to be one of the premier Thanksgiving destinations was the Great Alaska Shootout. This tournament actually goes back to 1978 when it originally began as the Sea Wolf Classic (hosted by the Alaska-Anchorage Seawolves). Even though no champion of this tournament has never gone on to win the national title later that season – there were 2 champions who would finish as the national runner-up; Seton Hall in 1988 and Kentucky in 1996. One of the best championship games in the Great Alaska Shootout came between Cincinnati and Duke in 1998; you can click here for some footage of this memorable game between a Duke team that would also finish as a national runner-up that season and a Cincinnati team where Kenyon Martin was an emerging superstar. The Bearcats would be victorious on this night, however.

In recent seasons, however, the elimination of the 2-in-4 rule has freed more marquee programs to play in other tournaments that have sprawled throughout the country, much to the detriment of the Great Alaska Shootout and the Preseason NIT. In its heyday, the Preseason NIT would be a 16-team single-elimination field that would feature the first two rounds to be played on campus sites and the final 2 rounds to be played in Madison Square Garden on Thanksgiving weekend. The very first Preseason NIT was held in 1985; Duke would beat Kansas in the championship in New York and would also beat the Jayhawks in the Final Four later that season. When under-the-radar teams began crashing the party, dwindling attendance helped lead the tournament to eventually change its format to one where 4 pre-determined teams would host the first 2 rounds on their campus sites and then play each other in a bracketed event in MSG. The “under-the-radar” teams would also play bracketed games with each other so that they too could play up to 4 games under the umbrella of an exempt event. Today, the Preseason NIT has dwindled to a 4-team, 2-game non-exempt event that will rotate between the Barclays Center and the older Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum.

But some of the events that have sprung up in recent years have benefitted both major teams and non-major teams alike. The MAAC hosts an annual tournament in Orlando (now the Advocare Classic); C-USA hosts the Battle 4 Atlantis in the Bahamas, and the Big West hosts the Wooden Legacy in Fullerton (early rounds) and Anaheim for the final day of competition. These events serve as early tests for major programs and also give under-the-radar teams a chance to play the big boys (and occasionally each other) in a neutral court setting as opposed to on-campus sites as buy game fodder.

So let us be thankful for what these tournaments have provided and will continue to provide for college basketball fans as they gradually become part of what is indeed a festive holiday weekend.

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News, Notes, and Highlighted Games: Thursday, November 26th

Below is a rundown of today’s action, along with a few news and notes

 

NEWS AND NOTES

-For Chad Sherwood’s Under the Radar Game of the Day – CLICK HERE

-HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!  I hope everyone has a safe and happy Thanksgiving Day, and that you get to enjoy some football and basketball with the family.  Hey, if you’ve had too much Holiday Spirit (something I’m quite familiar with) it’s best to just park it on the couch and watch some basketball.

-Indiana did not have a great trip out in Maui losing two of three games to teams like Wake Forest and UNLV, who are questionable teams at best.  Fortunately for them, the Big Ten will allow them the opportunities they need to not only make the NCAAs, but still end up as a protected seed.  But, it was a missed opportunity, and the rest of their OOC schedule only provides them with one or two more chances at statement wins going in to conference play.

-CHEICK DIALLO HAS BEEN CLEARED TO PLAY FOR KANSAS!!!  I’d like to thank the NCAA for their promptness and their sense of urgency to get a young man cleared that, seeing how he was cleared, shouldn’t have had to miss any games in the first place!!  Kansas won the Maui Invitational last night with a win over a very strong Vanderbilt team.

-The Battle 4 Atlantis has resurrected three rivalries that have been dormant for quite some time.  Gonzaga knocked off Washington without too much trouble, and Texas A&M took care of Texas.  Later today, we get to see Syracuse and UConn renew their long time rivalry.  Hopefully those two will agree to play regularly in the near future.

 

HIGHLIGHTED GAMES

-ALABAMA VS XAVIER (Advocare Invitational).  Xavier is unbeaten and has looked impressive at times.  Alabama has just one loss, but it was a blowout loss in the only game they’ve been tested in.  The winner will move on to likely face some high caliber competition, and the loser will likely face less than high caliber competition in the loser’s bracket.

-TEXAS A&M VS GONZAGA (Battle 4 Atlantis).  Both teams just won rivalry games against teams who’s series have been put on hold.  TAMU just knocked off Texas, and Gonzaga just won against Washington.  This is probably the biggest test for either team on the season so far, and it’s a chance to pick up a quality win away from home and build the NCAA Tournament resume.

-WICHITA STATE VS USC (Advocare Invitational).  USC comes into this game unbeaten, and although all the wins have come at home and none were against high caliber teams, they weren’t all against cupcakes either.  If they’re for real, we’ll get to see int his tournament.  Wichita State is dealing with a short handed roster and this could prove to be a bigger test than expected.

-ARKANSAS VS GEORGIA TECH (Preseason NIT).  I’m not expecting much out of either team, but they have decent records at this point in the year and can build up some momentum if they can do well in this tournament.

-SYRACUSE VS CONNECTICUT (Battle 4 Atlantis).  This is another series that needs to resume in the regular season at campus sites, but at least we get a version of it, and it actually is a stakes game for both teams.  Both are off to good starts at 4-0, and both could use a notable win away from home on their profile.

-BALL STATE VS UC IRVINE (Wooden Legacy).  UC Irvine is unbeaten, and if they want to play their way into a position to be able to make the NCAA Tournament without needing to win the Big West Tournament, then it is hugely important that they do well in this tournament.  This is their chance to get notable wins away from home, which I think they’re good enough to do.  Boise had a rather bad loss to Montana to open the year, but has looked pretty decent since.  This tournament is a chance for them to get some good wins on their profile, which is something they’re gonna need.  I know it’s early, but this game really does have a pivotal feel to it.

-STANFORD VS VILLANOVA (Preseason NIT).  I don’t think Nova is going to have too much trouble winning this tournament.  I’m not expecting much from Stanford, but a win in a game like this could really spring board their season.

-RICHMOND VS WEST VIRGINIA (Las Vegas Invitational).  I really like both these teams, but both have some work to do, particularly Richmond.  This game, and this event, is a chance for them to get some much needed statement wins.

-WESTERN MICHIGAN VS STEPHEN F AUSTIN (Challenge in Music City).  For Chad Sherwood’s UTR Game of the Day CLICK HERE

-NOTRE DAME VS MONMOUTH (Advocare Invitational).  I really like this Notre Dame team, but today shouldn’t be a complete cakewalk as Monmouth already has a road win against UCLA.

-BOSTON COLLEGE VS MICHIGAN STATE (Wooden Legacy).  We like picking on BC, and for good reason, but they come into this game 3-0 and have a win over a pretty decent Harvard team.  I don’t think they’re anywhere close to as good as Michigan State, but if they pull the shocker today they will have made their statement and will have shut us up.

-TEXAS VS WASHINGTON (Battle 4 Atlantis).  As it was pointed out by Lee Delvecchio, this is the second time these two have met this year.  They’ve met in two different countries, and neither of them was the United States.

-IOWA VS DAYTON (Advocare Invitational).  This tournament appears to have five strong NCAA Tournament teams in it, and three sub NIT teams in it.  These are two of the tournament teams.  That means, this is a hugely important game, especially for a team like Dayton, because winning it awards them the opportunity to likely play against good teams and build their profile, whereas losing it will give them just two blah games away from home.

-EVANSVILLE VS PROVIDENCE (Wooden Legacy).  Both teams come in unbeaten, and both appear to be pretty good.  It’s an early test for both teams and the winner will likely get to continue to face high quality competition, which is important for building an NCAA Tournament resume, especially for a team like Evansville who will have limited chances after this.

-CHARLOTTE VS MICHIGAN (Battle 4 Atlantis).  Michigan is off to a rough start.  They need to pick up two wins in the loser’s bracket and get out of here having at least won two games away from home.

-SANTA CLARA VS ARIZONA (Wooden Legacy).  If this weren’t a tournament game, it would be a buy game.  Santa Clara hasn’t won yet, and Arizona hasn’t lost yet.

-CALIFORNIA VS SAN DIEGO STATE (Las Vegas Invitational).  Cal is off to a good start, but this may be their biggest test yet.  I say “may be” because San Diego State is someone who we believed to be good, but they’ve been anything but impressive up to this point.  This tournament is a chance for them to pick up a win or two of note and turn their season around.

 

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Under the Radar Game of the Day – Thanksgiving: Western Michigan vs Stephen F Austin

Under the Radar Game of the Day, Thanksgiving Edition: Western Michigan vs Stephen F Austin, 5:30 PM, ASN

Happy Turkey Day college hoops fans!

For some (ok, most) people Thanksgiving is about family, turkey and football.  Traditionally, there were two NFL football games on Turkey Day, though in recent years a third nightcap has been added to the slate.  There are also a couple of college football games tonight, bringing the total number of football games available for one to watch up to five.  Five games.  That’s it.  There are TWENTY-FIVE D1 college basketball games on today, almost all of which will be on TV or streamed.  And some good ones too, including the second round of the Battle 4 Atlantis, semifinals of the NIT Season Tip-Off and Las Vegas Invitational, and opening rounds of the Advocare Invitational and Wooden Legacy.  There is also an interesting triple header of Under the Radar games being played in Nashville, Tennessee today (and the next two days as well) called the Challenge in the Music City.  Today’s lineup for that event (all televised by American Sports Network) is:

3:00 PM – Appalachian State vs Liberty
5:30 PM – Western Michigan vs Stephen F Austin
8:00 PM – Tulane vs Mercer

The middle game of the slate, Western Michigan vs Stephen F Austin, is our Under the Radar Game of the Day.  Western Michigan enters today’s game at 2-2 on the season, having defeated San Diego and non-D1 Rochester at home, while losing on the road to DePaul and UNC-Wilmington.  The Broncos won 20 games last season and played in the CIT.  They are strong off the boards with three players (Thomas Wilder, AJ Avery and Tucker Haymond) all capable of grabbing 10+ rebounds per game.  Despite the slow start to the season, the Broncos, especially if they can find some answers in the backcourt, have a chance to contend for the MAC West Division title this year.

The Lumberjacks of Stephen F Austin entered the year (once again) as the favorite in the Southland Conference and a team that we felt might, with a couple key non-conference victories, be able to push for at-large consideration should they need it.  The biggest problem was that SFA only scheduled a small handful of opponents that would qualify as quality wins, while at the same time doing unthinkable acts such as scheduling the maximum number of non-D1 opponents (4).  The Lumberjacks are 1-2 at the moment, having only beaten a non-D1 team while losing two of the better chances for good wins, at Baylor and at Northern Iowa.  With very few chances left, SFA may already be in a position where their only way into the Big Dance is via the automatic bid.  That being said, a win today over WMU (and two more the next two days in the Challenge in the Music City, over Tulane and Appalachian State) has the feel of a must-win game.  WMU is probably the ‘jacks toughest opponent in the Challenge, and they will need big games from Thomas Walkup and Demetrious Floyd if they want to pick up the victory this evening.

Enjoy the games (and the turkey) everyone, and remember — Thanksgiving is a College Basketball Holiday too!!!

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News, Notes, and Highlighted Games: Wednesday, November 25th

NEWS AND NOTES

-For our latest Under the Radar Video Podcast – CLICK HERE

-For Chad Sherwood’s UTR Game of the Day – CLICK HERE

-For Jon Teitel’s interview with Ed Ratleff – CLICK HERE

-Kansas has a big game today against Vanderbilt that you’ll read about below.  Cheick Diallo has still not been cleared to play by the NCAA.  The only good news is that he hasn’t been denied eligibility yet either, but the NCAA has been reviewing this case for months and has still not made a decision.  Whether he is or is not going to be cleared, the amount of time this is taking is completely outrageous.  He was given a waiver that permitted him to travel to Maui with the team, which is a good sign because the NCAA likely would not have granted it had they thought the prognosis was negative regarding his eligibility.  But, here it is the last day of the tournament, and they STILL haven’t ruled.  WHAT THE HELL IS TAKING SO LONG??!!?  Initial eligibility, on the surface, is rather simple.  A player needs 16 core classes from high school in specific subjects such as English, Natural Science, Math, and Social Science, they need a GPA that’s calculated from only those core classes and not from other “fluff” courses that they may have taken, and they need to meet a minimum score on the ACT or SAT.  They also need to show that they have never played as a professional in any way, shape, or form before.  Where students get into trouble is if there is a question over what is or isn’t a core class, or over what does or does not constitute playing as a professional and it can take some time to sort out.  But, the key word there is “SOME” time.  IT HAS BEEN MONTHS!!!!  MONTHS!!!!!!!!!  This is grossly unfair to Diallo, the Kansas team, and the Kansas fans in that order.  Whatever it is that’s causing the uncertainty of his eligibility should not take months to figure out.

-We have two other great games today, that you’ll also read about below.  Now, with the excitement and electricity that we saw out of the Maryland v Georgetown game last week, which is a series that had been dormant for over two decades, can we all agree that out of conference games between brand name regional opponents is a good thing??  So, it’s good that we get to see Gonzaga v Washington and Texas v Texas A&M again today.  What’s unfortunate is that these are not regular events that are played in front of packed houses of insanely excited fans.  Both are actually one time events that are part of an exempt tournament that’s being played in another country.  We love these events, but for games like this, they need to be played in front of thousands of screaming fans, not hundreds of rich drunk tourists in a resort’s ball room in another country.

-UT Arlington picked up another huge win last night against Memphis.  It was Arlington’s second surprising road win.  Ohio State, who they beat earlier in the week, picked up their second surprising home loss when they fell to still unbeaten Louisiana Tech.

 

HIGHLIGHTED GAMES

**EDIT** When I initially posted the rundown of today’s games, I did not realize that Gonzaga and Washington HAVE, in fact, agreed to resume the series!!  There is now a four year home-and-home in place.

-WASHINGTON VS GONZAGA (Battle 4 Atlantis) (***Spotlight Game***).  The rivalry is back!!  It’s a damn shame that it’s only sort of back, and that it’s being played in another country at 9am Pacific Coast time instead of on campus.  This was a great series that Washington ended about eight years ago.  Their reasoning was that they wanted to play a more national schedule, and the implication was that they gained little from playing Gonzaga.  Even though Gonzaga won eight out of nine (or something like that), Washington was far more relevant in that stretch then they have been since the series stopped.  That’s not to imply that playing Gonzaga was the only reason they were good, but it is to point out that they don’t “gain nothing and lose everything” by playing it.  If the Maryland v Georgetown game taught us anything, it should be that OOC games between regional opponents are good things.  So, that’s the off paper story.  On paper, both teams come into this unbeaten, and Washington already has a notable win away from home against Texas.  Gonzaga hasn’t really been tested yet other than the first half of the Pitt Game, which was ultimately cancelled.

-TEXAS VS TEXAS A&M (Battle 4 Atlantis).  (***Spotlight Game***)  These two rivals have not played since TAMU left the Big Twelve for the SEC.  Both are good programs.  Both play in front of half empty houses quite frequently prior to conference play starting.  Hmmmm….Let’s think about this.  Who could these two teams play that would generate interest amongst the fans??  It has been mentioned earlier, but I mention it again because it can’t be mentioned enough.  These are the kinds of games we need in November and December.  And, it’s great that they’re playing, but we need them ON CAMPUS!!  Not as a one time event that’s part of an exempt tournament in another country.  If this were a regular game, the arena would NOT be half empty.  Anyway, TAMU appears to be good, but hasn’t had a strong test yet.  Texas is still adjusting to Shocka Smart’s system and has not yet picked up a big win, so it’s an important early season game both on and off paper.

-VANDERBILT VS KANSAS (Maui Invitational).  Both teams have looked good this season, and this is a chance to pick up a very impressive win away from home for whoever pulls this off.  Kansas is still without Cheick Diallo and is uncertain when he’ll be available.  The reason they are uncertain is because the NCAA sucks when it comes to doing things the effect other people, namely student athletes, in a timely manner.

-SYRACUSE VS CHARLOTTE (Battle 4 Atlantis).  Syracuse is unbeaten, but untested.  This tournament can serve as an OOC resume builder if they’re able to take care of business and pick up some wins.

-WESTERN KENTUCKY VS DUQUESNE (Gulf Coast Showcase).  I’m not entirely sold on Duquesne yet, but they do have just one loss on the year and they can slowly start to build a profile if they can continue to pick up wins in games like this.

-SAMFORD VS IDAHO (Mean Green Showcase).  Both teams have been horrible in recent years, but both appear to be much improved early on this year.  Both come in 4-1 and Samford just knocked off North Texas, who is hosting this event.

-SOUTH DAKOTA STATE VS CLEVELAND STATE (Cancun Challenge).  South Dakota State hasn’t faced a big test yet, but a win today does get them to 6-0.

-HIGH POINT AT GEORGIA.  This is a buy game, but it gets highlighted because Georgia, while good, is off to a very slow start and needs to rebound, and High Point is off to a better than expected 3-1 start.

-INDIANA VS UNLV (Maui Invitational).  Both teams have been somewhat disappointing in this event, and this game has a rather pivotal feel to it as both try and end things on a high note, especially for UNLV who doesn’t have as many opportunities at notable wins as Indiana will have.

-ILLINOIS STATE VS TCU (Cancun Challenge).  Illinois State’s record is an unimpressive 2-3, but they played really well against Maryland the other night and between that and their other games have shown that they have the potential to have a big year.  If they beat TCU tonight and even their record at 3-3, they’ll be in fairly good shape.

-YALE AT DUKE.  Yale is one of the better teams in the Ivy League, and Duke is one of the better teams in the nation.  It’s a mismatch, but it’s still a game of interest due to Yale being a potential tournament team.

-LA SALLE AT PENN (Big Five).  I don’t know if either team will play their way into relevance, but La Salle is currently unbeaten and Penn has just one loss.  And, it’s a Big Five game, so it gets highlighted.

-WAKE FOREST VS UCLA (Maui Invitational).  It’s a resume game between two teams that need to do some resume building.

-MONTANA AT NORTH DAKOTA STATE.  I’m a little shocked this wasn’t Chad’s UTR game of the day.  I think that both teams have an outside shot at best of landing on or in the bubble, but it’s still a good early season match up.

-MARYLAND VS RHODE ISLAND (Cancun Challenge).  It’s at times like this that I hate Rhode Island is injury ridden for the season.  It’s still a great test and opportunity for them, but it will be much harder for them to take advantage of it.  Maryland, while unbeaten, hasn’t exactly been running over their opponents the way you would expect a top seeded team to, so don’t be surprised if they have to sweat this one out.

-AIR FORCE AT COLORADO (Front Range).  Both teams come in with just one loss.

-CONNECTICUT VS MICHIGAN (Battle 4 Atlantis).  Michigan struggled big time against Xavier in their last game.  If they want to show that they are for real then they need to pick up some wins in this tournament.  UConn, who plays in a decent but not great conference, could use this tournament as a huge resume builder as well.

-CREIGHTON VS UMASS (Men Who Speak Up Main Event).  I’m not expecting big things out of either team this season, but as of now UMass is unbeaten and Creighton has just one loss.

 

BUY GAMES

-Vermont @ Florida
-Arkansas @ Oregon
-American @ VCU
-Cornell @ Pittsburgh
-Lehigh @ Virginia
-Hampton @ William & Mary
-Dubuque (nondiv1) @ Northern Iowa
-Prarie View A&M @ Wisconsin
-Mississippi Valley State @ BYU
-Nicholls State @ New Mexico

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Under the Radar Game of the Day – Wednesday, November 25 – Grambling State at Texas-Arlington

Under the Radar Game of the Day: Grambling State at Texas-Arlington, 8:00 PM Eastern

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13 days into the 2015-16 regular season, one of the last cities that the UTR Game of the Day expected to be heading to was Arlington, Texas.  UT-Arlington was chosen to finish in 9th place in the Sun Belt this season.  The Mavericks lost their top three players off of last season’s team and the only good news heading into the year was the lack of any seniors on the roster — meaning that next year they might have a chance to succeed based on experience they would gain this one.  Of course, the game is played on the court and not on paper (or websites).

On Friday night, Arlington went to Columbus, Ohio to take on the Ohio State Buckeyes.  When the dust had settled, the upset was complete and UTA was walking away with a 73-68 victory.  As if that was not enough, the Mavs then head to Memphis Monday night to battle the Tigers — and walked out with another win, this time by a score of 68-64.  Kevin Hervey led the way in both games, with 18 points against the Buckeyes and 22 points (plus 11 rebounds) against the Tigers.  Arlington now stands at 3-1 (having lost at Louisiana Tech and beaten Fordham at home) heading into tonight’s contest.

Tonight’s opponent for the Mavericks is the only two-time winner of the coveted HOOPS HD Centenary Award — the award given at the end of each college basketball season to the worst team in Division I.  Grambling State captured the title last season following a 2-27 campaign (with neither win coming against D1 competition).  The Tigers are 1-4 so far this year, with their lone win again coming outside of Division I.  1-5 after tonight is likely as the Tigers have really not even been close in their four losses so far, including a 19 point home loss to Louisiana Tech on Saturday.  They will need a huge effort from Nigel Riberio if they want any shot at the upset tonight.  Riberio provided the biggest highlight for the Tigers in the La Tech loss, dropping 28 points on the Bulldogs.

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Under the Radar: November 24th

This week, Chad and David look at the surprising wins that UALR and UT Arlington have racked up. They also talk about how impressive Valparaiso has looked, and that it wouldn’t surprise them if they only dropped one or two more games for the rest of the season.  Other teams that they liked in the preseason, such as Old Dominion and Northeastern, have been somewhat disappointing.  They run through all 23 conferences, reveal the UTR Top Ten, and more…

 

And for all you radio lovers, below is an mp3 version of the show…

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