Tourney Talk: HoopsHD interviews NC State basketball parent John Nunnally about his son Alex

It has been a wild few weeks for NC State: 5 wins in 5 days to clinch an ACC tourney title, and then 4 NCAA tourney wins to clinch a spot in the Final 4 this weekend. Earlier today HoopsHD’s Jon Teitel got to speak with NC State basketball parent John Nunnally about his son Alex.

As a senior at Cary Academy in North Carolina your son Alex made 81 3PM to break the school record that had been set by 2021 NBA 1st round pick Trey Murphy III: what is his secret to make shots from behind the arc? I do not know where he gets it from: it is not me! He practices his butt off and works out early before classes: I have always supported him and his discipline is amazing. Even when we go on vacation we must find a court somewhere so he can work on his shooting.

He originally signed with D-3 Juniata College out of high school: did you always think that he would eventually end up at a D-1 school? I did…eventually. He was concerned about playing time but decided that he really loves NC State. We were at the College World Series a few years ago and he talked to some people about it and decided that he loved it. Now he gets to practice with D-1 players every day.

You are an NC State alum and you 2 have traveled to games for years: what did it mean to you when he finally transferred to NC State? I met my wife there and Alex has been going to games with us since he was a baby. It was special to us because we love State, but we wanted him to go wherever he would fit in best.

He made the ACC Honor Roll during each of his 1st 2 seasons: how does he balance his work on the court with his work in the classroom? He is incredibly dedicated about that. We saw him in Dallas last weekend…and then he said that he had to go do some homework. His teammate Michael O’Connell is the same way: I talked to his dad about Michael graduating from Stanford in only 3 years.

He is a walk-on: does it make the experience any less sweet because he does not get as much playing time as the guys on scholarship? It probably makes it sweeter because he knows the history of how good NC State was before the struggles of the past few decades. He has tried to convey the history of guys like David Thompson/Dereck Whittenburg to his teammates. They have had plenty of great players since then so it is surprising to me that it took 37 years to win another ACC title. We were doing great at the 2021 College World Series that I mentioned before some players caught COVID and the team was sent home: how does that happen?!

The Wolfpack were 13-4 in mid-January but lost 10 of their last 14 in the regular season: how on earth did they turn things around at the ACC tourney in DC last month by winning 5 games in 5 days? I am stunned: I really do not understand how it happened. I had to reshuffle my schedule just to get to DC but my wife could not join me for the opening game. I was worried that she would miss her chance to watch us play if we lost in the 1st round…but we destroyed Syracuse, and then played even better vs. Duke. Virginia was a tight game but they could not put us away: the team just got stronger in every single game. Mo Diarra has been fasting during Ramadan and Alex was his roommate in DC: Mo would get a huge breakfast at 5:45 AM and then just not eat the rest of the day. Even during the season we had moments where we played pretty well but it just did not “click” until the Syracuse game. We started 5-1 in ACC play and I started to get excited before they started to stumble.

In the NCAA tourney they have won 4 straight over Texas Tech/Oakland/Marquette/Duke: did you even have a chance to spend time at your day job (lawyer with 30 years of trial experience) while watching them win 9 games in a 20-day span? It has been rough but thank God for technology and phones and understanding clients/judges! We all grew up watching the tourney so I am lucky that people have been incredibly accommodating.

He was born/raised in Cary, NC, which is the same city that 2 of his current teammates are from (KJ Keatts/Jordan Snell): is the whole town just going to explode this weekend? It has been incredible throughout the whole area. They have been showing me behind the bench on TV because I am living/dying with every play and some people have started to recognize me on the street. There is a buzz in the region because I think this is the best the program has played in a couple of decades.

The last time NC State made the Final 4 was in 1983 when they upset #1 Houston to win the title: what do you remember about their own incredible run more than 4 decades ago? I remember it very well. We crushed Wake Forest to end the regular season and were playing very well entering the postseason. People forget that it was not a 68-team tourney back then so UNLV had 8 days of rest before playing us. I still remember the shock of beating Houston: there was no shot clock/3-PT line so it is weird to see when they replay it on TV. They just dribbled around for the last few minutes until Whittenburg took that final shot.

Any predictions for this weekend? No! If you had told me earlier this year that they would be playing in the Final 4 I would have laughed but I am cautiously optimistic. My son got to cut down the net at the ACC tourney and again at the South Regional so I will never get tired of watching him do that. I know how much they push him and it is a solid rotation of guys. They have become like a family unit: both the players AND parents.

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The Hoops HD Report: Final Four Edition

It’s a storied Final Four. Purdue has made it for the first time since 1980, NC State has been on an amazing run since the start of the ACC Tournament, Alabama is in the Final Four for the first time ever, and…well…UConn is back in the Final Four for the first time in 12 months. Chad and the panel recap the Sweet Sixteen and Elite Eight games and look ahead to the Final Four and National Title games. Jon Teitel and Rocco Miller discuss their experiences at the West Regional in Los Angeles, and talk about their upcoming plans for attending the Final Four. We discuss all that, and more…

And, for all you radio lovers, below is an audio only version of the show…

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All-Access at the West Regional in Los Angeles: Clemson-Alabama

The NCAA tournament is about basketball but also so much more: the parents, fans, bands, cheerleaders, etc. The Sweet 16/Elite 8 are taking place in 4 cities around the country and we could not be more excited to be there in person! HoopsHD is covering all the angles so you can look forward to an abundance of access in the days ahead. Jon Teitel continues our coverage from Los Angeles with a recap of Clemson-Alabama.

My final pregame concession voucher of the month came in handy for dinner: chicken sandwich/Diet Coke. Due to the Arizona/UNC media fleeing town yesterday, I was able to get a seat upgrade from the press box up high all the way down to the 2nd row!:

Brian Anderson/Jim Jackson are ready to call the game for TBS:

Both cheerleader squads are ready:

Both coaches are ready:

Let’s tip it off:

Clemson came out strong despite 4 turnovers in the 1st half from their star big man PJ Hall. His fellow frontcourt player Ian Schieffelin picked up the slack in the paint with a dunk, a pair of layups, and a pretty fadeaway jumper in the lane:

SR G Chase Hunter also knocked down a pair of jump shots and had a STL/layup/foul/&1 combo that helped his team build a 26-13 lead heading into the under-8 timeout:

As you might expect from the top-scoring offense in the nation, Alabama got back into the game via the 3-PT shot. FR F Jarin Stevenson went scoreless during his prior meeting with the Tigers last November, but apparently his “spot” is in the corner because he made a pair of threes from there en route to 10 PTS off the bench in the 1st half:

His teammate Rylan Griffen made two long-range shots of his own as the Tide came all the way back to take a 35-32 halftime lead:

Both teams looked a little nervous early on but they both regained their composure during halftime and put on a shooting clinic in the 2nd half. The 1st half stars kept doing what was working for them: Schieffelin kept scoring in the paint and finished with a double-double of 18 PTS/11 REB (although his 4-8 FTM was underwhelming), while Stevenson made a few more threes and ended up with an efficient 19 PTS in 25 minutes. The surprising star for Alabama was SR F Nick Pringle: he had a pedestrian 4 PTS/5 REB in the November game but made all 3 of his FG attempts after intermission while grabbing every rebound in sight and had his own double-double of 16 PTS/11 REB. The “surprising” part is that he has a very odd FT stroke and is usually terrible at the line (54.7% this season) but made a whopping 8-13 on Saturday (while the entire Clemson team made just 8-16 FTs):

Clemson refused to go away and got great contributions from several key players. Syracuse transfer Joe Girard did his damage from outside with 17 PTS in the 2nd stanza on 5-7 3PM:

His teammate RJ Godfrey punished Alabama in the paint with scoop after layup and finished with an efficient 12 PTS in 15 minutes:

It appeared that Hall was on the verge of leading the comeback with a huge dunk, a tough turnaround jump shot, and even a 3…but after he fouled out with 3:25 left the Tide had turned:

SR G Mark Sears somehow went SCORELESS during the 1st 16 minutes of the game, but he flipped the switch at halftime and went nuts with 6-7 3PM (including 1 from the logo!):

Due in large part to Sears’ game-high 23 PTS, Alabama beat Clemson 89-82 and is headed to Arizona for the 1st Final 4 in school history:

After the buzzer I went down to the court to take a bunch of photos of the postgame celebration, check back tomorrow for the best of the bunch.

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All-Access at the West Regional in Los Angeles: HoopsHD interviews Clemson basketball parents Jerome & Melanie Hall about their son PJ

The NCAA tournament is about basketball but also so much more: the parents, fans, bands, cheerleaders, etc. The Sweet 16/Elite 8 are taking place in 4 cities around the country and we could not be more excited to be there in person! HoopsHD is covering all the angles so you can look forward to an abundance of access in the days ahead. Jon Teitel continues our coverage from Los Angeles with an interview of Clemson basketball parents Jerome & Melanie Hall about their son PJ.

Your son PJ was born/raised in Spartanburg, SC, and was a top-50 recruit coming out of high school: what made him choose Clemson? While most people say Spartanburg we live in the suburb Moore, SC. It later turned out that it was always “Clemson to beat” but he kept his cards close to his chest. He saw his siblings’ own college journeys so we did not interfere: if we saw a red flag then we would raise it…but I never saw a single 1 at Clemson. They are by the book and if they cannot do something then they will just say so. It is well-run, palms-up, what you see is what you get: from the president to the athletic director down to Coach Brownell. We appreciated the transparency: nobody at Clemson ever made promises they should not have, such as that he would start. It felt right to us, and he had an immediate bond with some of the other players from the 1st day he visited, especially Hunter Tyson. Coach Brownell is like a dad-away-from-home and fosters a tremendous culture, 1 that PJ flourishes in.

Jerome: you work at the RD Anderson Applied Technology Center teaching carpentry to high school students: how much of an influence have you had on your son to balance his work on the court with his work in the classroom? PJ took 1 of my carpentry classes back in the day. Coach Brownell is a very detail-oriented guy who schedules his day hour-by-hour…just like me! PJ is a fun-loving free spirit, so he brings a different vibe to us about relaxing. When it is time for discipline, he is all over it: the competitive spirit is there.

Jerome: you used to work as a college basketball official: any thoughts on the state of officiating in 2024? Everybody is human but it is the hardest game to referee due to the athleticism/speed of the game. Rough play is illegal and sometimes it gets overlooked. I do not miss trying to stay prepped on the floor but I do miss the camaraderie with the other refs. Hopefully the NCAA will massage the review process to make it quicker, but also more accessible so that they get the call right. My referee buddies will call me about certain plays that come up during a game. PJ had dinner with us after the Sweet 16: he had a team meeting, but Coach let him slip out to join us (he still made the meeting: Coach was just being understanding by letting him leave the property). We try to put things in perspective because he gives it during games as well as takes it…although I do not think that he has flattened anyone’s face before!

Your family friend David Renwick (whose daughter Anna is PJ’s girlfriend and whose son Jack was PJ’s high school baseball/basketball teammate) passed away around Thanksgiving of 2022: how has your family’s faith helped you overcome that terrible loss? Both my father and my wife’s father were ministers so faith was ingrained in us from a young age. David asked me if I wanted to coach little league: Anna was 1 of their teammates as well! We would talk every couple of days for decades and go to lunch after church every Sunday. We did everything with David, and we miss him every day. Melanie: our faith assures us of reuniting 1 day, which helps ease some of the sting. There is still longing for the physical presence but knowing that his family will reunite with him 1 day is a wonderful feeling to lean on…especially during this time of year (Good Friday/Easter/etc.). He was an amazing father/friend/role model. So many people leave with unfinished business, but boy did he have a lot wrapped up when he left.

Last spring PJ declared for the NBA draft and earned an invitation to the draft combine but ultimately chose to return to school: how close did he come to going pro, and do you think that he made the right decision? We always think he makes the right decision with everything he does. We are here for support and advice is asked, but ultimately these are his own prayerful decisions to make. He knew that he had some deficiencies and questions about his position at the next level (whether he would play the 3/4/5). He wanted to get that feedback from someone in the league, which was eye-opening to him. I know how much he loves Clemson: I always joke with him that now is the time for him to run for mayor. Everyone loves him…except for 1 woman who would not let him give a treat to her dog! There was a daily discussion with Coach Brownell and others, but the greatest component was having a healthy body and showing the scouts how well he can play when he is healthy. He can jump, has quick feet without holding back, and if he had made a big impact then there was the possibility of staying in the draft. He decided that he had unfinished business and wanted to come back to school and have a greater impact. He has been vocal about wanting to leave a legacy: not just a personal 1 but for recruiting purposes after seeing what the program has done over the past few years. That was his goal, rather than to have his jersey hanging in the rafters someday.

He has undergone multiple surgeries during his college career: what was it like as a parent watching him go through rehab multiple times? Our daughter had hip labrum surgery and had to be off her feet for several weeks. We were watching the Louisville game and he got hurt about 90 seconds into it after landing funny (although he broke the bone in his foot in a game against Drake). Thayer was sitting in a booth with her leg up and we were just bawling at the restaurant table: it was very hard. He texted me from the training room to tell us that he was okay. I go back to our faith: in our hardest times every step in our journey prepares us for our next 1, whether it is a peak or valley. Having that belief helps us navigate those tough times and helps the result feel more positive because we will come out better on the end of it. He believes that wholeheartedly and knows that God has got this and just figures out what action he needs to take.

He turned 21 last month: what did you all do for his big day? He played Georgia Tech. Mom fixed him a lemon poppy seed cake, which is his favorite. I asked him if I should slice it up for the flight home…but he said no because he was not going to share it! I told my father Paul about it, and he told PJ that it was very wise on his part.

Jerome played basketball at Wofford, Melanie played basketball/volleyball at Charleston, your daughter Thayer played volleyball at Florida, and your son Chris Ross played college basketball at Anderson University: who is the best athlete in the family? We kind of think Thayer…whose husband Ryan Weathers plays baseball for the Marlins! They get their “chill” from their mother and their competitive drive from their father. Melanie was quite good and rarely left the court, but did not have the crazy/ferocious drive that some people possess. Jerome always had that animalistic drive and coached PJ in travel ball: it was the same. I would have friends text me about Coach Brownell getting in PJ’s face on the sideline and people would wonder how he could take it: PJ loved Brownell and said he had nothing on Jerome! Everything in life prepares you for later. In their primes, Christopher was probably the most athletic. Thayer is the most decorated/competitive and cannot stand to lose or watch someone cheat. PJ might be the most “complete” athlete: he can withdraw himself from the competitiveness and just remain a fun-loving kid while guarding a 7’1” center. Chris plays in an adult league in Greenville and nothing has changed: he is in it for blood despite THREE ACL surgeries! Chris had a long journey, then really changed his body when he got to college…which set the tone for PJ/Thayer after seeing how hard he worked because it did not come easy for him. Chris is 10 years older than PJ but they were very much alike and PJ has always looked up to him while seeing him scratch/claw/succeed. After COVID hit everyone moved home: as bad as it was for other families, it solidified/changed ours in ways I could never have dreamed of. They moved together as a pack, and it was so amazing to watch that: it was awesome.

In the 2nd round of the ACC tourney PJ scored 21 PTS in a 21-PT loss to BC: what was his mood like after the game, and how did the Tigers turn things around since then? We walked back to the hotel to meet him after the game and had to find a secluded corner for him to show some emotion because his heart was very heavy. He was bewildered and just searching for the answer to what happened. He takes his leadership role so seriously: we were right behind the bench and heard him trying to motivate his teammates to turn the ship around. He put that on his shoulders even though everyone was trying. PJ has big dreams and wants to change the face of Clemson basketball. It is icing/gravy from here on out because nobody thought they would make it this far. It feels like the start of the season when they were 11-1 and nobody cared who got the most PTS/REB. I do not think there is a player/parent connected to this team who does not subscribe to that. PJ is emotional about Brownell and only tells us a fraction about what goes on in the locker room, but we saw what Coach had to deal with. There was a terrible narrative on message boards about him being a bad coach/terrible guy, but nothing could be further from the truth. In a perfect world winning the ACC tourney would have been his dream but seeing him go from that low point in DC to the high point this weekend shows how he has come full circle. He gets horrible messages on social media and some idiot hacked his Twitter, so he shut it down and has not reopened it, which has been good for him.

Any predictions for the game vs. Alabama tonight? I am not an analyst, but I have heard that it is a good matchup for the Tigers, and PJ feels the same. I feel bad for UNC: I met some of their players the other day including RJ Davis/Armando Bacot and they were so nice. When they played against Clemson earlier this season Harrison Ingram cramped up and fell to the floor: everyone else kept playing but PJ bent down to ask if he was okay.

I think the 2 programs have a similar culture/mutual respect and it would have been fun to match up with them…but we like our chances. Alabama has been on a run and we will try to slow them down. We are a little more physical inside, but they shoot better from the outside. It will come down to who handles the pressure better and can shoot the ball. We are hoping for a few calls to go our way as well: anything 50-50 needs to be orange!

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All-Access at the West Regional in Los Angeles: Alabama breakout room

The NCAA tournament is about basketball but also so much more: the parents, fans, bands, cheerleaders, etc. The Sweet 16/Elite 8 are taking place in 4 cities around the country and we could not be more excited to be there in person! HoopsHD is covering all the angles so you can look forward to an abundance of access in the days ahead. Jon Teitel continues our coverage from Los Angeles with an Alabama breakout room interview.

SR F Grant Nelson

You transferred from North Dakota State last June: did you think that playing for a chance to go to the Final 4 would even be possible? Yes. My main goal was to make it as far in the NCAA tourney as I could, so my main factor was finding a coach who could do that. Coach Oats has 1 of the best offenses in the nation and the past few years his defenses have been great as well. When I looked at the other transfers/returnees on the roster I knew that we had the potential to do this.

You had mediocre games in the 1st/2nd rounds last week: how were you able to outplay the great Armando Bacot on Thursday? The preparation started last summer and continued throughout the season, both for me and the entire team. If we had any little slip-up then we probably would have lost that game.

You were swarmed be the media in the locker room the other night after your amazing performance in the win over North Carolina (24 PTS/12 REB/5 BLK): what have the past 24 hours been like? It has been crazy. I have received a lot of love, especially from everyone in my hometown of Devils Lake, ND. They love to see someone from their start doing something big so it has been great.

You scored 14 PTS in an 8-PT loss to Clemson last November: what do you expect in the rematch? They are a good team with a lot of experience who slowed the pace down vs. Arizona. All of their guards are good shot-makers and PJ Hall has torn up the ACC all year…but if we give the same kind of effort that we did on Thursday then I think we will win.

Your brother Leif is a javelin thrower at USC, your brother Joel won the North Dakota Division A basketball title a couple of weeks ago, and your sister Erin was named homecoming queen in addition to being the 1st woman to score a point for the boys’ football team at her high school (as a kicker): who is the best athlete in the family? It was very competitive growing up with 9 siblings. It is me or Leif: Joel is getting there…but I am unsure if he can jump like me/Leif. It was great to see him win a state title…but if I make the Final 4 then I guess I would 1-up him!

Check back for a lot more access all weekend long!

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All-Access at the West Regional in Los Angeles: Clemson breakout room

The NCAA tournament is about basketball but also so much more: the parents, fans, bands, cheerleaders, etc. The Sweet 16/Elite 8 are taking place in 4 cities around the country and we could not be more excited to be there in person! HoopsHD is covering all the angles so you can look forward to an abundance of access in the days ahead. Jon Teitel continues our coverage from Los Angeles with a Clemson breakout room interview.

SR F PJ Hall

Your father Jerome used to be a college basketball official: does that have any impact on your own interaction with referees? I know a few of the refs who also know my dad. I am an animated guy on the floor, but I have tried to hold it back at times, and my dad will remind me to control my emotions.

You have had to deal with multiple surgeries during your college career and last spring you declared for the NBA draft and earned an invitation to the draft combine before ultimately choosing to return to school: how gratifying has this month been after everything that you have been through? This is foreign territory…but it is our time. We are 1 step away and to know that we can bring Clemson to its 1st-ever Final 4 is special/prophetic. Playing for Coach Brownell is great so I never even thought about transferring somewhere else. This is what I returned to school for…and when we got Joe Girard from Syracuse I knew that he would be an integral piece.

You scored a team-high 21 PTS in an 8-PT win over Alabama last November: what do you expect in the rematch on Saturday? It is tough to beat a team twice in 1 season, but we also have confidence from our previous win. However, every team goes through changes during the year so neither of us are the same team that we were in November.

Your father played basketball at Wofford, your mother Melanie played basketball/volleyball at Charleston, your sister Thayer played volleyball at Florida, and your brother Chris played college basketball: who is the best athlete in the family? Not me! It is hard to pick between Thayer/Chris. She was 1 of those “generational talents” but after Chris got to college he put on 60 pounds while still retaining his 40” vertical leap. I might have to go with Chris because he is a freak show.

You turned 21 last month: what did you do for the big day? Nothing! I just sat at home after beating Georgia Tech earlier in the day and watched “The Office”.

Check back for a lot more access all weekend long!

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