HoopsHD Preview 10/23: B1G and P12

HHDpodsOn this initial edition of the HoopsHD Preview Podcast, we sit down and talk about the Pac 12 and Big Ten. On the Pac 12 front, we discuss whether Arizona really is the team to beat in the 2013-14 season, and whether they can be trusted with that responsibility. We also discuss the UCLA and USC situations, and discover a healthy amount of trepidation on the part of our west coast expert relating to both. Oregon, Cal, Arizona State, and Colorado also get some discussion, and our panelists end up picking a surprising consensus champion for the conference.

On the Big Ten front, we all agree that there seem to be four clear favorites in the conference, but there’s a lot of discussion about what order they’ll finish in. The middle of the conference also gets its due, as Iowa, Indiana, Purdue, and Illinois are all in play for tournament spots.

Be sure to check out HoopsHD’s regular podcast series throughout the course of the year, and watch our Twitter feed at @HoopsHD for more information on future videocasts!

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Give Them Some Money, Damnit!!!

Recent events such as the Ed O’Bannon lawsuit, and Johnny Manziel signing a gazillion autographs have raised questions about whether or not athletes should be paid. I feel that scholarship athletes definitely deserve more than just the scholarship. There are many arguments for paying athletes, but strangely enough I strongly disagree with a few of the main ones….

 

THEY NEED IT. It’s true that many student-athletes, particularly those in football and men’s basketball, come from low income and low socioeconomic homes and areas, low resource high schools, and high crime neighborhoods. However, the notion that they don’t have enough money to order pizza is a little bit of a misnomer. The NCAA now allows what is called a Special Needs Fund. This basically allows a school to provide players with dental care, clothes, shoes, laptops, plane tickets home in emergency situations, and basically anything that can be construed as a “special need.” Plus, they have their housing and meal plans paid for. If they live off campus, then they get a monthly check that equates to the cost of living on and eating on campus, and anyone who’s been to college knows those rates are higher than the average. If they have roommates off campus, they almost assuredly will have money left over. So, that’s not why I’m for it. In fact, I think arguing that they need it actually makes it worse because it can be so easily disproven.

 

Another argument that I can’t stand….

IF WE PAY THEM, THEN THEY WON’T TAKE MONEY FROM BOOSTERS. This argument is embarrassingly stupid, and people need to stop making it. Having more money does not make you smarter, nor does it make you less selfish, and it sure as hell doesn’t stop you from wanting more of it. Look at the people that cheat on their taxes or commit white collar crime. The vast majority of them are very well off financially, and some are freaking loaded. Paying players will not reduce the number of improper benefits cases by one-one-hundredth of a percent.

So, having said all that, why am I in favor of paying college athletes more than just their scholarships?? Simple. I think they are deserving of it. They don’t need it, but many people reading this are richly deserving of things that they don’t actually need. Many working professionals can get by on a smaller salary, but saying a person doesn’t need their current salary is a crappy justification for cutting their pay, or for that matter, not giving someone a raise when they take on more responsibilities.

 

 

Now, let’s flip the page over and look at some of the stupid arguments that are typically made for NOT paying student-athletes…..

 

VERY FEW SCHOOLS ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY OFF OF ATHLETICS. This is true only in a technical sense. Universities, and the athletic departments within them, are non-profits, and they enjoy a tax exempt status because they do not operate with the same objectives as businesses that are part of the free market. So, while on paper athletics don’t appear to technically make money, in a practical world they actually do. You can’t have multi-millionaire head coaches and millionaire assistant coaches on the payroll if you’re truly not actually making any money. Cutting coaching salaries alone would free up enough money for the players. On top of that, the perks in just about every div1 athletic department, even the non-major programs in the one bid conferences who don’t have football, are extreme. It’s been my experience that new computers are purchased for all athletic department employees even when the old ones are working just fine. Cars are purchased for “department use.” New cars are purchased every few years because the ones that were purchased a few years ago are now a few years old. Planes are chartered when athletic department employees would rather not have to drive for three hours. There are new smart phones, and iPads, and flat screen TVs for offices with maxed out satellite accounts, and all kinds of toys. They’ll spend in the neighborhood of $500 per employee per year on gear, t-shirts, gym bags, shoes, hats, jackets, and all kinds of nonsense.

But….somehow they can’t afford to pay the players anything.

 

THEY’RE ALREADY GETTING PAID WITH A FREE EDUCATION. This is true, to a point, but they’re not the only ones that get a “free” education. At most universities, the children of university employees get their tuition paid for. Not only that, they’re allowed to go out and get jobs and make money. I won’t venture to guess an exact percentage, but a large number of students are on financial aid of some form or another. Let’s look at this a little more deeply…..

Other university students in all other activities, many of whom are on some sort of scholarship or financial aid, are not only allowed to seek out opportunities to make money, they’re actually encouraged to do so. Art majors are encouraged to enter their pieces into galleries and exhibits, and if they’re sold, they get the money. Students who want to go into broadcasting will work at the campus TV and radio stations, and can make money doing it. At many schools, working for or writing for the school newspaper is a paid position, and journalism majors are allowed to pursue that. Theater majors are allowed to pursue rolls in plays and get paid for doing it. Students who are elected to student government positions are paid. RAs are paid. Students who study culinary arts can go out and get paid. Even business majors are encouraged to get internships, and many of those are paid. The examples are endless.

So, why does this romantic ideal of amateurism apply to football and basketball, and not to art, or theater, or TV, or radio, or business, or journalism, or countless other fields??

Not only that, but student-athletes are monitored very closely if they are pursuing one of the majors that I listed above. I know of an example where a softball player was an art major, and wanted to enter her pieces into an exhibit where people would have the option of buying them. The compliance office went ballistic and basically told her they didn’t want her to do it. The reason?? It would be hard to ensure that the buyer was not a booster, and that the price they paid for it was a fair price.

 

THEY GET MAJOR PERKS, LIKE GETTING TO TRAVEL, AND THE SCHOOL PAYS FOR IT. I am not a violent person, but whenever I hear someone say this I want to punch them in the face. I get where they’re coming from. They associate “travel” with “vacation,” probably because it’s the only type of travel they’ve ever done. Traveling with a team is nothing like a vacation. It’s exhausting. It’s annoying. You don’t know one place from another because everywhere you go you’re either at the hotel, at practice, at a team meal, at the game, or leaving. You can be playing at Tulane, and you’d never know you were in New Orleans. Plus, it makes it harder to balance that “free” education that they’re getting when they’re out on the road.

 

The last, and definitely the least argument that I will touch on today…..

 

WHEN I WAS AN INTERN, I DIDN’T GET PAID, SO I DON’T SEE WHY THEY SHOULD GET PAID BEFORE GOING PRO. This is perhaps the most moronic and nonsensical argument that I’ve ever heard against paying college players. Comparing internships to college athletics isn’t like comparing apples to oranges. Apples and oranges are both round pieces of fruit of similar size that grow on trees. It’s more like comparing apples to steering wheels. There is simply nothing that the two have in common. The whole idea that someone would say “I didn’t get a scholarship, and I had to work as an intern before getting my career started, so athletes shouldn’t make any money either” is so narcissistic and asinine that I don’t know there is an adjective in the English language that can adequately explain how narcissistic and asinine it really is.

Internships basically serve as apprenticeships and work experience for people that want to go into a certain field of employment, and have a likely chance of getting into that field. College athletics are not that at all. For entry level jobs that require X number of years of experience, college athletics would not suffice as counting toward that experience. It’s not an apprenticeship for a specific career, with the exception of the very small percentage of athletes who have a chance to go pro and earn a living that way.

Furthermore, many internships ARE paid!!! When I was in graduate school, I had an assistantship in student affairs that paid for my tuition, housing, food, and gave me $3200.00 a year on top of that. That’s way more than any college athlete has ever legally received, and it came from student affairs, which has way less to work with than the school’s athletic department. I generated absolutely no revenue for the university. If anything, I was an expense. So, why can’t players get something on top of their scholarship??

 

Now, how would I do it??

 

I’m not in favor of salaries or stipends. Paying athletes a salary would make them employees of the university, and therefore they’d be out from under the umbrella of Title IX, and I have no interest in jacking up women’s sports (which I strongly support). I would be in favor of a cost of living subsidy of roughly $2000 that would be part of the scholarship for all scholarship athletes regardless of the sport. For head count sports, every player would get the full subsidy. For equivalency sports, they would get some of it just like they currently get a partial scholarship. Personally, I think it could be and should be more, but $2000 was the amount that was recently proposed and voted down. Since it’s a subsidy, it would not be taxed, the non-profit status of the university would not be jeopardized, and women’s sports would not be threatened due to football and men’s basketball no longer being a part of Title IX.

Furthermore, I think players should be able to make money off of their likenesses and autographs. There is some concern with this. They do not like the idea of a big time booster paying someone tens of thousands of dollars for an autographed t-shirt. I understand that. I think that perhaps there should be a limit to how much an athlete can make off of their likeness. $10,000?? $15,000?? $20,000?? I don’t have an exact figure in mind, but I do see the desire to regulate it the same way impermissible benefits are regulated now. This should also be an option for all athletes regardless of their sport. It would mostly benefit men’s basketball and football playres, but if a school has a track star that transcends the sport, and they can make $10,000 off their likeness, then all power to them.

Furthermore, I actually think allowing players to make money off of their likenesses would help the non-major programs. Why?? Well, Stephen Curry would have been a star regardless of where he went to college, but at Davidson, he was an ultra-superstar among the students, alum and fanbase. So, if a player is being recruited by Ohio State, they could go there, they could play a lot, and they could even start. But, if they went to a school like Western Kentucky instead, they would be a star and could end up on a billboard in Bowling Green, KY, and have a better chance of making some money off of their image.

Anyway, that’s how I feel. Athletes don’t need money. They simply deserve it. That’s why I’m in favor of them getting something on top of their scholarships.

Griggs

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HoopsHD Podcast 07.21.13

HHDpodsLike a horseman of the apocalypse, the HoopsHD podcast series is riding through town once again. Galen and Lee take on several current topics in the game, including Tim Floyd’s irritation at a player wanting to transfer to USC, the continuing issues at North Carolina and the never-ending stream of reporting emerging from that situation, and more.

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Evaluating the proposed NCAA tourney tweaks

Andy Katz had a piece on ESPN.com today discussing some proposed rules changes relating to the NCAA men’s basketball tournament. Since the NCAA doesn’t always have the greatest of track records in choosing and implementing these types of changes, we thought it would be a good idea to review what they’re considering and give the proposals a letter grade.

Tweak 1: Protect the true seed. The basic idea at play here is that the “true seed”, or the spot on the seed list where a team is actually ranked, is getting negatively impacted by the bracketing principles that the committee uses, which are supposed to prevent regular-season rematches from occurring before the Sweet 16. If they are actually going to protect teams’ seed lines, then good — I think the rematch avoidance principle is going to be harder and harder to implement anyway, with the rise of the mega-conferences. A few second or third round rematches are not a big deal, and may actually increase interest in the early stages of the tournament.

A couple of other items from the write-up of this first proposal – in the spirit of HoopsHD contributor Kyle Lamb, everyone needs to cease with this insistence on saying BYU “can’t” play on Sundays. Wrong, they choose not to. Big difference. The massacring of the bracketing process on behalf of a religious preference is rather odd, considering the lack of consideration of so many other variables that exist for other teams.

Second, I think it’s interesting that the committee is happy to recognize the 32 automatic bids now, with the AAC and the Big East both getting one. I seem to recall several occasions where conferences that split (like the Mountain West when it divested from the WAC) were forced to go through a waiting period where they had no automatic bid. Always hilarious to see the hypocrisy of the cartel in action.

Tweak grade: A

 

Tweak 2: Family Consideration. Here’s a rare sign of intelligence – considering family travel issues when scheduling teams thousands of miles away from their natural regions. Of course, it’s not an actual proposal, just something that’s going to be discussed, and go through the NCAA legislature, where it will almost certainly die. Because that’s what happens to intelligent proposals at the NCAA.

Tweak grade: A. Chances of tweak happening: F-

 

Tweak 3: Arenas for regionals. The idea here is that domed stadiums aren’t nearly intimate enough to create the atmosphere needed for high-level basketball during the Sweet 16 and Elite 8. This is common sense, is it not? I’ve been to games in both arenas and domes, and frankly, even Final Fours in domes tend to be antiseptic and lifeless. For half the fans, the floor is too far away to ever feel like you’re a part of the action, and the massive amount of open air and unused space ensures that you never get the vibe of being at a college game. Yes, when you have a matchup between passionate fanbases, things can get exciting in a dome (we saw that for Kentucky-Indiana in 2012, among other times), but those matchups are impossible to preordain. In this proposal, the domes wouldn’t be locked out, but for all intents and purposes they’d be aiming future sites at arenas. I cannot think of a reason why anyone wouldn’t support this.

Tweak grade: A+

 

Tweak 4: Fan experience. This proposal is very light on actual explanation by Mr. Katz, but apparently the committee wants to change or alter the seating configuration for fans. Look, guys…if the game’s in a dome, you’re going to struggle with arranging people. The idea of putting students close to the floor is a good one, but also problematic depending on the distance of the teams from the regional site. Are you going to sacrifice high-priced seats just to maintain a student block?

Tweak grade: C

 

Tweak 5: Tournament leadership. Is this a “tweak”? I don’t see anything that would qualify. Although I do think it’s hilarious that the NCAA is transitioning from Bobinski, who by all accounts has been an excellent chairman and a good overall leader, to Wellman, who actually chose to hire Jeff Bzdelik as a head basketball coach. That fact alone should cause people some serious concerns.

Tweak grade: If the tweak is Wellman taking over, then D-.

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Pac 12 vs Grand Canyon – The For-Profit Controversy

The Grand Canyon University Antelopes begin their transition to full Division I membership this season, as they will become a member of the “new look” WAC.  Grand Canyon has one unique feature to its school that is not, on paper at least, possessed by any other Division I school.  Grand Canyon is a “for profit” university.  This means the school sells its shares and seek investors, and in theory would pay dividends based on its yearly earnings.  As a for profit entity, Grand Canyon does not received the same tax-exempt status that every other Division I school has.

 
It has been reported that other Division I schools are not very keen on a for profit university joining Division I.  Cbssports.com’s Dennis Dodd reported that the Pac-12 is in the process of filing a formal protest of their admission and is urging its member school not to schedule any games against Grand Canyon in any sports.  Quite frankly, in my opinion, this is one of the most ridiculous and hypocritical things I have ever heard of.

 
Like it or not, we live in an era where college sports is being driven by one major guiding force.  That force, of course, is the almighty dollar.  Conferences are signing television deals and creating their own networks in order to bring millions if not billions of dollars into their universities.  The dollars being paid out by cable and satellite providers to carry more and more collegiate sports is getting practically insane, and that money is filtering through to the universities.  ESPN has about 500 channels, FOX with the introduction this year of their new Fox Sports networks is not far behind, NBC and CBS have their own sports channels, and then we have the individual conference networks, such as the Big Ten Network, Pac 12 Network, and in 2014 the SEC Network.  And that doesn’t even bring up Texas’ Longhorn Network.

 
These Division I schools are receiving millions of dollar each year, but claim they are non-profit entities.  They pour the money into supporting their non-revenue earning sports like water polo and badminton and curling or whatever else they offer.  They pour money from athletics, in theory, back into their schools to go towards research and financial aid and all those other lofty goals.  And what else do they do with the money?  Oh yeah, they solicit “boosters” to give the school more money–and then reward these people with the best seats at the games or fancy dinners with the school president or the like.  And by the way, each school’s regents/directors certainly checks the bottom line each year to make sure that enough revenue is coming in from the sports that earn money in order to balance the books.

 
Grand Canyon, as an alternative way of doing business, has decided to solicit “investors” (boosters?) and is attempting to make enough money to support its athletic programs, research, and financial aid.  It gives dividends (rewards) to its investors in exchange for the money they invest in it.  Its university officials review the bottom line each year to make sure the school is not losing money.  In other words, it runs the exact same way that every other school in the country runs, it just uses different terms!

 
Actually, that is not quite true.  Grand Canyon does do one major thing that the rest of Division I does not do.  It pays taxes.  It’s revenues not only pay for seats with cup holders and built in massagers for its biggest “investors,” but they also go to help pay for all those government funded programs, like..oh..say..disaster relief for victims of Hurricane Sandy.

 
If the Pac-12 wants to keep Grand Canyon out of Division I, it should first take a good hard look at itself in the mirror.  Grand Canyon is making money the American way, building a profitable business and paying taxes on its profits.  The Pac-12 and the rest of Division I are making money as well — they are just exploiting the system, avoiding taxes, and even accepting tax dollars from the government — tax dollars paid by Grand Canyon, by you, and by me.

 
And now I’m going to see my stockbroker about buying a few shares of the Antelopes.

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Bracket Racket 07.04.13

Brad Stevens to Boston? That’s cause enough for an emergency podcast, as we hurriedly got the band back together at the dawn of Independence Day, and discussed the ramifications of the boy wonder heading to the big scary NBA. We also talked about the culture change that NBA front offices appear to be going through, as well as the long-term prognosis for the Butler program.

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